From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun May 13 10: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1937B42C for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 10:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 19709 invoked by uid 1000); 13 May 2001 17:00:26 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:00:26 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Jordan Hubbard , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, DougB@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SSH Must Die Message-ID: <20010513190026.A18437@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Kris Kennaway , Jordan Hubbard , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, DougB@FreeBSD.org References: <3AFD1D6D.51731EAC@mindspring.com> <20010512072320L.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3AFDC640.83A13495@mindspring.com> <20010512193354.A47163@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010512193354.A47163@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, May 12, 2001 at 07:33:54PM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway(kris@obsecurity.org)@2001.05.12 19:33:54 +0000: > On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:24:48PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > ssh works just fine for me in 4.3. You must be doing something > > > wrong. > > > > I used that "sysinstall" thing Jordan wrote to upgrade > > from a 4.2 to a 4.3 system. > > > > Is that what I'm doing wrong? ;^). > > sysinstall does a very minimal job of merging the contents of /etc. > Certainly it could be improved (mergemaster works nicely when you have > the source tree around). Your patches would be appreciated. is there a way to make the upgrade process easier by doing the thing mergemaster does but with an interface that does not kill the average ordinary user with a simple prompt without really useful help incantating strange phrases to summon the subprocesses that diff and patch and apply the arcane magic? the average luser cannot deal with diff outputs so it would make sense to have a simple program displaying the old version in the upper and the new in the lower part of the screen, allowing the user to choose what to do next. i am not quite sure, but i think about it "feeling" like vim or emacs in splitscreen mode editing version-tagged files. btw, mergemaster's version number generation for the help/syntax page is broken because it displays the number of the running kernel not the version of mergemaster itself: --- VERSION_NUMBER=`grep "[$]FreeBSD:" $0 | cut -d ' ' -f 4` echo "mergemaster version ${VERSION_NUMBER}" --- why is it this way? i would think about creating the version in the build process and s/@TAG@/version/ it in the to-be-installed mergemaster file. > > Kris -- > A Puritan is someone who is deathly afraid that someone, somewhere, is > having fun. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de [Key] [KeyID---] [Created-] [Fingerprint-------------------------------------] GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 BF46 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message