From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26573 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26561 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:02:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA27290; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:16 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA30433; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:15 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228163114.A12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:14 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812280547.VAA06042@implode.root.com> <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 09:48:23PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:48:23 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >>> What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is >>> grounds for removal from core? >> >> It doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies. > > Any better ideas for addressing the problem? It's clear we need an > active, not a passive group. If core isn't open to a cull > (understandable), maybe some of this sort of work needs to fall to a > different management body? Hmm. It doesn't make any sense to have a second ``management'' body. They'd just end up fighting with -core members, and it's not as if there are limitless numbers of good people. I agree with David that the idea of compelling people to do something in core isn't attractive, but neither is the alternative. If people don't pull their weight, core will tend to fill up with them (the only way to get things done is to add new people). The more I think about it, the more it looks like there *should* be some obligation to vote. How about an ``inner core''? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message