From owner-freebsd-current Wed Aug 11 9:35:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889AD14C59; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04157; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:34:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA28760; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:34:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:34:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199908111634.KAA28760@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" , Peter Wemm , Cameron Grant , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: it's time... In-Reply-To: <199908111603.KAA17583@harmony.village.org> References: <199908111603.KAA17583@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : Correct, but the nature of the kernel probe/attach messages is to convey > : information in a readable, consistent, useful manner. > > Agreed. However, what's magical about 80 columns? What's magical is that almost every text console is limited to 80 columns (think serial console), as well as the standard default size for terminal emulators is 80 columns. My editors go out > to 180 sometimes. The console can easily be placed into a mode where > it is > 80. This is especially true for the serial console where it > might be connected to a 132 column printer. Just because it *can* be connected to a 132 column printer doesn't mean it *will* be connected. Most printers that I use are 80 columns wide. Heck, almost *every* printer I use is that wide, hence the whole 80 column thing. The most common case for a console is an 80 column wide console (this is the default for the virtual terminals, most printers, most text terminals, etc..) Changing it is silly, and non-standard. > No! At some point they should use a facility similar to solaris/sysv > where they don't display, but do make it into the dmesg buffer... On my Solaris box, they are displayed at boot time. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message