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(dclarke@blastwave.org@174.118.245.214) by 0 with ESMTPA; 15 Nov 2018 21:07:26 -0000 Subject: Re: The PowerMac G5 internal hard disk SATA question To: Justin Hibbits Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <157b8bec-f5f6-08ba-cc2e-a58dc42894c5@blastwave.org> <20181115104303.631cb9d8@ralga.knownspace> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <60a561b1-23c0-7181-05a5-609008b1f06e@blastwave.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:07:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181115104303.631cb9d8@ralga.knownspace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A43487F2CD X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.13 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.84)[-0.839,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.31)[0.308,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[42.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.31)[-0.307,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:07:36 -0000 On 11/15/18 11:43 AM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:18:43 -0500 > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Someone (offlist) asked if my shiney new Seagate hard disk was >> compatible with SATA-I and I wouldn't know. I have had various types >> of hard disks in this thing and also some SSD types. Nothing is very >> fast and all of them worked. >> >> Not sure if anyone else has tried to attach a new Samsung EVO SSD >> onto an old PowerMac G5 but I would be interested to hear the >> results. In the mean while I will figure out how to fully backup the >> contents of my old Apple branded Hitachi Deskstar HDS725050KLA360 >> 500GB disk which has a very stable Debian sid PPC64 image on it. I >> figure dd will do the trick. >> >> If there is a way to install FreeBSD from a USB stick onto a PowerMac >> G5 well I'd love to hear from someone about the OpenFirmware magic >> needed. Thus far using a PC keyboard and a Vulkan nerve pinch >> CTRL+O+F does not get me to the openfirmware prompt. It has been a >> while since I tried and it may need a six fingered vulkan hand to do >> CTRL+SHIFT+O+F to work. >> >> Then boot ud:,\\:tbxi ??? >> >> Dennis > > Hi Dennis, > > My experience with the Samsung EVO drives on PowerMac G5 is they only > seem to work on the second (bottom) SATA interface. I have yet to > figure out why, but both my 840EVO and 850EVO behaved that way. It > works more or less fine there. Sometimes my G5 would forget about it > at boot, and I'd have to power cycle in order for it to recognize the > drive again. It never once worked in the 'primary' slot. OKay this is helpful ! Thank you. I thought I was losing my mind ( what there is to lose ) in that I was getting weird behavior from my disks or ssds in these old boats. Could just be bizarre Apple hardware. I think what I shall do is boot ye old original Apple label Hitach disk and then do a backup to an external USB attached brick. That way I have all my Debian sid ppc64 work saved away. Maybe I will fire up another G5 brick but those damn things really put a drain on the UPS for what they do. Perhaps QEMU will be okay for my Debian sid ppc64 work. Regardless I have greater interest in FreeBSD UNIX and I realyl would like to have at least two or three risc machines running. Namely RISC-V and PPC64 and a SPARC unit for local flavour. I have a ton of SPARC laying about. Also a metric ton of PA-Risc HP Superdome gear in my life. However that is a whole other story and only Helge Deller could make those work. So anyways ... I will try with the original Apple part disk in the correct slot and then there are no excuses. Dennis