Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:15:25 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Marc Schneiders <marc@oldserver.demon.nl> Cc: Julian Stacey <jhs@muc.de>, freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: free slow channel Message-ID: <20000214131525.Q2699@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002140339330.67860-100000@propro.oldserver.demon.nl> References: <20000214130408.P2699@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002140339330.67860-100000@propro.oldserver.demon.nl>
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On Monday, 14 February 2000 at 3:41:38 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 14 February 2000 at 3:28:05 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 12 February 2000 at 2:29:58 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2000 at 16:33:15 +0000, Julian Stacey wrote:
>>>>>>> A friend told me in [last weekend's (5&6 Feb 2000)?] Suddeutsche Zeitung
>>>>>>> `Computer & Co' supplement, it reported that, as of 9/2000 Deutsche Telekom
>>>>>>> would offer free continuous ISDN connection at low bandwidth.
>>>>>>> I presume this is buried inside the 16K D channel,
>>>>>>> I hope it's not tied into their own ISP service, but is generic,
>>>>>>> Anyone know more ? If I find out more I'll post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about Germany, but I do know that another European
>>>>>> carrier is experimenting with this idea. I've been asked not to
>>>>>> reveal which, though if you have been following the FreeBSD lists you
>>>>>> should have seen the message and noticed what is going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, give us a hint, someone. I suppose it won't be my country,
>>>>> where the former state-owned telephone company still has a monopoly on
>>>>> local calls. We pay $1.50 an hour for internet during office hours
>>>>> (which are from 8 to 8 hours for this purpose).
>>>>> If, it is us (NL=Netherlands=Holland), it might be nice to know asap
>>>>> to start finding ways to set up things...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I forgot the name of the person who sent the mail message, but
>>>> he was asking why his pings always took a multiple of 10 ms. It
>>>> turned out it had something to do with the way the exchange forwarded
>>>> the packets.
>>>
>>> I will look for the message once the search is up and running again
>>> at freebsd.org. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Though I fear my pings suggest it must be another country:
>>>
>>> propro:marc {101} ping venster.nl
>>> PING venster.nl (212.204.195.108): 56 data bytes
>>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=54.161 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=52.955 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=54.257 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=54.473 ms
>>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=54.608 ms
>>> ^C
>>
>> You're not pinging over the D channel.
>
> Could I? If so, where do I found howto?
Obviously, if your system supports it. But as I said, I'm not saying
whether it was your telco or not, and the odds are against it.
Sorry to be so secretive, but I was asked not to reveal this
information, and as I understand it, it is not available yet anyway.
I'm sure you'll find out soon enough when (or if) it becomes available
in your area.
Greg
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