From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Jun 22 16:18:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F04D8FBEA for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F0D80A86 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 30227D8FBE9; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F99BD8FBE8 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm20-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.118]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBCE780A85 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1498148180; bh=SyvL9sze9/GIu92he61cBhv2OJVAc7NqdEOX+8Pk+xw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=bRlAk3/EX41CWRTJgkrX7NuzMgY3ICSPsJoPewDnPnGv5Mff1UdVVSNnwku3Hn86TbORAOJuAhOiZp1humdhNPHXkqLWHgImZbnh/GAtAWbYmnSVGvv6IInx3iehRI5Zxi6RELbVc9otKLObwTpL4xGVwp7u6Lhh3Bm+xm3yPNA= Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2017 16:16:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.51] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2017 16:16:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2017 16:16:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 371421.39906.bm@smtp113.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: dY.r8CUVM1lq..iStZg3wpcoh14fc3LqYHAhJX50HlRbql0 kwM6fCYY1Qym2sJzHbu9LOGH0wbGssnOPuXJqeNhBCu_Odix4OhQ7Eqv6dBH FvBHDyoWOPmBpPJjhjI7H90zKWiM8ybecU4Ss9e9vddorMqTc57H3koGfJGz 22r1Z9VS20McFzhLNw.maXbapJz.o94TSddBcRLtL62TLI1xM9EvwU36xQG_ X7yUMsveYzB87f028ekBwRWOsJd.nOmDZI33RMIFIlVeLQm7EAzUi139CRaX m7ZgW8pokz9kwsAt84Iz4X.qILNmRy9va2d_cdQ2o2_MiCAHosA1admOsnZm ._TWKvWovjRhLYMPQn_7yKDSOSvD7vuXDrJl2qmG05g.KQNav2rRrCr_vuNo iEODQzJfekmZdq62sDaEyjA_TYv0MS.YDNSsPh3.OIe2wvtyHiMzs9nrKEa0 8FyPqSGuMFlQPpqKsdlsTU7WT8_Z18CusUGoSEQSq1RytJJKt30VTmftRCHo VNa2LOWREvpiVzXWDOUQrQy0XiLjxCuOKIwcYtpcCTossB0lyHELKWg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:16:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20170622121856.haikphjpvr6ofxn3@ivaldir.net> <775ba90e-a811-4cc8-a729-bdc0dad7774c@FreeBSD.org> <1tlnkc1l8md98dl3teqoab8ds3jutmvavc@4ax.com> <708cbded-8a7b-a60f-c668-32fd9966d1a5@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <708cbded-8a7b-a60f-c668-32fd9966d1a5@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:18:10 -0000 [Default] On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:01:45 +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: >I've had this conversation with ports several times, But the requirements >of 'business' is not their interest. In fact i was told several times, >"Don't use our quarterly packages, make your own with poudriere". >(which makes one wonder "What is the purpose of he quarterlies?) Indeed. I can't help feeling that there's something very wrong when people for whom the system is a tool rather than a plaything have to work around the choices made by the "official" developers. Besides your question, I'd add: for whom are the developers developing, if not for those who want a useful tool rather than a hobby? 's mise le meas