From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 8 12:43:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from raiden.jasnetworks.net (raiden.jasnetworks.net [65.194.248.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1539537B421 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from works ([192.168.0.2]) by raiden.jasnetworks.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g18KiBD07732; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:44:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from raiden23@netzero.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20020208153453.009878c0@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: raiden23@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:47:57 -0500 To: Zceth@broadpark.no, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Lord Raiden Subject: Re: Breaking permissions on Windows 2000 (Server Edition) In-Reply-To: <1013160210.3c639912e49de@mail.broadpark.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:23 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Zceth@broadpark.no wrote: >I know I'm asking for advices on 'how to hack' Windows. But since you all >hate >Windows, and you've all devoted your lifes fully and truely to the use of BSD >UNIX, I'm hoping the replies on this e-mail will be positive. Two notes. 1. IF you hack your schools network and win2k servers, you'll get thrown out, loose all your credits, and on top of that they'll be dialing 1-800-FBI. Hacking and cracking are not only illegal, but they will get you some hard time. 20+ last I heard. 2. Not all geeks who use unix, Linux, or any of the BSD's are "anti-windows" or "anti-microsoft". Sure, I hate the evil empire, but that's my personal opinion. Others love it. Personally I hate Microsoft, but as far as windows goes, it's great. But only for certain applications. Each OS has its strengths and weaknesses, and albeit that windows has more weaknesses than strengths, it's got its own little niche in any good NOC. For example, we use both FreeBSD, Novell, and Win2k Server/pro and we're not a "Nix's only" shop. Our win2k servers have their uses, just like the Novell and FreeBSD boxes do. In all actuality I'd rather be all FreeBSD, but there are just some things that are better done with things like Solaris, sometimes apps that we run are only available for say Win2k or Novell. So we either live without them or go with having a Win2k or Solaris box dedicated to them. Makes being an admin interesting, but that's part of the fun of the job. My recommendation to you. If you don't like the way something in, put out a petition to see if you can get it changed. If I were your schools admin, I'd rather have you come and talk to me about this first, even if I didn't agree with you and wouldn't change. He's probably got his reasons and they're entirely valid. Until you've spent a week in his shoes sorting out all the non-sense that's on that network, don't whine about it. It only makes things worse. To use this analogy, it's the same thing as burning a house down because you didn't like the color of the paint on the house and the owner wouldn't change it. Rather than do that, ask why it's that color and if he agrees to change it, help him change it. Be constructive, you'll get farther. :) Plus, not all admins who seem like jerks actually are once you get to know them. Sometimes it's just stress leaking out from the upper level managers giving out their daily list of "impossible or unreasonable IT requests". I get those ever day. Most I laugh at, some I grumble about, others...well I won't go into that. hehe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message