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Date:      Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:47:57 -0500
From:      Lord Raiden <raiden23@netzero.net>
To:        Zceth@broadpark.no, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Breaking permissions on Windows 2000 (Server Edition)
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.20020208153453.009878c0@pop.netzero.net>
In-Reply-To: <1013160210.3c639912e49de@mail.broadpark.no>

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At 10:23 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Zceth@broadpark.no wrote:
>I know I'm asking for advices on 'how to hack' Windows. But since you all 
>hate
>Windows, and you've all devoted your lifes fully and truely to the use of BSD
>UNIX, I'm hoping the replies on this e-mail will be positive.

         Two notes.

         1.  IF you hack your schools network and win2k servers, you'll get 
thrown out, loose all your credits, and on top of that they'll be dialing 
1-800-FBI.  Hacking and cracking are not only illegal, but they will get 
you some hard time.  20+ last I heard.

         2.  Not all geeks who use unix, Linux, or any of the BSD's are 
"anti-windows" or "anti-microsoft".  Sure, I hate the evil empire, but 
that's my personal opinion.  Others love it.  Personally I hate Microsoft, 
but as far as windows goes, it's great.  But only for certain 
applications.  Each OS has its strengths and weaknesses, and albeit that 
windows has more weaknesses than strengths, it's got its own little niche 
in any good NOC.  For example, we use both FreeBSD, Novell, and Win2k 
Server/pro and we're not a "Nix's only" shop.  Our win2k servers have their 
uses, just like the Novell and FreeBSD boxes do.

         In all actuality I'd rather be all FreeBSD, but there are just 
some things that are better done with things like Solaris, sometimes apps 
that we run are only available for say Win2k or Novell.  So we either live 
without them or go with having a Win2k or Solaris box dedicated to 
them.  Makes being an admin interesting, but that's part of the fun of the job.

         My recommendation to you.  If you don't like the way something in, 
put out a petition to see if you can get it changed.  If I were your 
schools admin, I'd rather have you come and talk to me about this first, 
even if I didn't agree with you and wouldn't change.  He's probably got his 
reasons and they're entirely valid.  Until you've spent a week in his shoes 
sorting out all the non-sense that's on that network, don't whine about 
it.  It only makes things worse.  To use this analogy, it's the same thing 
as burning a house down because you didn't like the color of the paint on 
the house and the owner wouldn't change it.  Rather than do that, ask why 
it's that color and if he agrees to change it, help him change it.

         Be constructive, you'll get farther.  :)  Plus, not all admins who 
seem like jerks actually are once you get to know them.  Sometimes it's 
just stress leaking out from the upper level managers giving out their 
daily list of "impossible or unreasonable IT requests".  I get those ever 
day.  Most I laugh at, some I grumble about, others...well I won't go into 
that.  hehe.



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