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Date:      Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:02:58 -0400
From:      "Andrew C. Hornback" <achornback@worldnet.att.net>
To:        <tigspok1@home.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD crashed
Message-ID:  <009a01c14462$5c514bc0$0e00000a@tomcat>
In-Reply-To: <20010922074858.NQFA10595.femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 3:55 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: FreeBSD crashed
>
> I have been using Win98 SE for over a year now and Windows in general for
> over 20 years

	Hmm... let's see... today is September 23, 2001.  To have been using
Windows (in general) for more than 20 years, that would mean that you
started using Windows in 1981.  Hmm... *goes back to his Byte magazine
collection*

	Considering that the first widely used GUI was on the Macintosh (which was
released in 1984, and it wasn't even Windows...) and about the only GUI
produced prior to that would have been at PARC-Xerox in the form of the
Xerox Star.

	Are you saying that the Xerox Star was actually running a form of Windows?
Should I start making some phone calls and get you an interview?

> and lunix for over five years.

	*grins*  At least you've got the spelling down...

> I tried your FreeBSD system
> since my roommate has been using it and other *inx type systems
> for over ten
> years now.  I have installed your system with his help and then tried to
> reboot and go back into Windows.  I did NOT have my Win harddrive
> pluged in,
> so windows should not have been touch.

	And it wouldn't have been, unless you believe in things similar to
"Immaculate Byte Bombing"...

> I got back into BSD and then he
> showed me how to mount my windows harddrive and cp files from
> Windows to BSD.
>  I then shutdown and unpluged BSD and pluged in Windows and had
> nothing.  I
> could not get Windows to boot.

	One would have to assume that at this point you checked all of the major
things that could possibly keep a hard drive from booting.  However, since
you do not list them, that may be an incorrect assumption.

> I have had to re-due my harddrive
> and have
> lost all of my information on my harddrive because of this.

	Where are your daily backups?  Obviously, someone as experienced as you
would realize the benefit of backing up your software and data prior to
opening the case and actually working with the physical hardware.

> Some
> of these
> files are of legell use and can not afford to be lost.

	Then again, you should have backed them up just prior to powering down and
installing a hard drive to install FreeBSD on.

> YOUR so called
> FreeBSD system is crap.

	We cannot be held responsible for your lack of responsibility for your own
data.

> I am very upset at this and intend to notify
> Microsoft of this just on the offset that you or someone in your
> company has
> put some kind of code or virus on your system to attack a Windows
> system.

	Dear friend... please examine any installed FreeBSD system that has the
source code.  Go through the source code on your own if you believe there to
be a virus or some other form of attack which has disabled your Windows
system.  If you find anything, I'm sure that we of the FreeBSD community,
along with the rest of the world, would benefit from that knowledge.

> This seems to be the only reason to the problem that your system
> has caused me.

	And you made sure to open your system in a locked clean room with
absolutely no static electricity in the facility?

> I will also be mailing them the same CD iso image that I
> used for them
> to install and then invetagate.

	Why not investigate it yourself?  Obviously, with your level of knowledge
and skill in this matter, you should be able to investigate the problem on
your own.  But, by all means, make sure you send them the CD ISO.  They may
need another copy to keep hotmail.com running.

> YOUR system destroyed my Windows!!

	And how do you figure that?

> I will no
> longer be using ANY BSD product.

	Then you'd want to get rid of Linux as well, considering that it has some
code implemented in it taken from or based directly on the various BSD
platforms.

> Now I understand why so many
> people are not
> using anything but Windows, they do not destroy your system if
> you connect
> the two together.

	In the hands of the wrong person, something as mundane as plant food can be
used to create serious problems.  The key is in the implementation.

	No one here is bending your arm to use FreeBSD.  The fact that you do not
wish to use FreeBSD is not a problem.  You are free to choose whatever
operating system you want for your computer.  However, blaming FreeBSD for
problems you encountered while working with a different operating system
(and to some, much more inferior) means very little.

	If you would like us to help you with your problem, you will need to
provide more information.  Howerver, from the closing tone of your message,
you will not be considering the use of FreeBSD in the future.  And to that I
say, good luck.

	Just as a parting shot, notice that Microsoft has used FreeBSD to run
hotmail.com, and is now using some portions of FreeBSD for development of
their C# and .Net strategies.  If you're going to stay with Microsoft,
you'll be back.

--- Andrew C. Hornback


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