From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 16 13:26:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02FF16A401; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ADC43D46; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4715EFD; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00529-01; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-194-11.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.194.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77AA5D99; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4419676A.4030208@mac.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:26:02 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson , "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , postmaster@freebsd.org References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060316022816.01d1d1b0@live555.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: Subject: Re: What's up with all the spam on several FreeBSD mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:26:01 -0000 [ ...cross-posting minimized to one list, postmaster@ CC'ed... ] Ross Finlayson wrote: > What is the reason for the sudden flood of spam on several FreeBSD > mailing lists? Do these lists no longer require that senders be > subscribed to the list? Or are legitimate senders' computers infected > with a virus that is sending the spam in their names? Respectively, sometimes people do the SPAM equivalent of a drive-by shooting and flood the lists (which is happening now), the FreeBSD lists are mostly open and permit unsubscribed posting, and sometimes, yes, legitimate senders get infected and have their machines bounce spam our way, too. postmaster@ is undoubtedly on it, but if you have sufficient insight into mail headers to help complain to the sending ISPs, by all means feel free to help. -- -Chuck PS: A postmaster's job is almost always a thankless task. (But there are exceptions: thanks for doing what you can. :) PPS: However, I think that the list admins perhaps might take better advantage of Mailman's ability to have posts be moderated temporarily: URI:/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net/?VARHELP=general/emergency If this isn't currently being done because the people with moderator access lack the time, would this change if more people are willing to help moderate...? I would very much prefer to see the FreeBSD forums be rid of off-topic spam.