From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 4 7:17: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF17E14CFE for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17744; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990304101644.B15601@netmonger.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:16:44 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <41919.920485707@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Marius Bendiksen on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 02:01:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 02:01:52PM +0100, Marius Bendiksen wrote: > > Thank you for being apparently one of the very few people who > > actually understand this point. :( > > Actually, I'm sure many people understand this point. However, our efforts > must be targetted at forwarding our own alternative. If we're content to > just see someone provide an alternative, and fail to pursue our own > agenda, our alternative will disappear. FreeBSD will not disappear as long as we continue using it. While I would like to see as many other people happy and free and possible, I am content being able to do _my_ job. FreeBSD is free software. If Walnut Creek goes away, the software is still available, and anyone can still pick it up and make improvements. There may be people who work on FreeBSD only because they are being paid by WC, but that is not the only motivation out there. As for the other interpretation of your comment, there is a very _positive_ aspect of Linux running on IBM computers that I'm sure some people would prefer not to admit. Linux is GPLed software. If IBM has to change Linux to work with their hardware, they have to publish the source code. This means that we will have access to it. It is in IBM's best interest to provide open, standards-compliant hardware (they haven't learned from MCA?), but whether they realize that or not, their decision to support Linux will document any idiosyncrasies in the form of source code. One other thought. IBM seems to want to provide choices. I remember reading that they intend to provide a choice of Windows NT, OS/2, Linux, or AIX. I seem to remember reading on this list that FreeBSD's only obstacle is that there are some incompatabilities which are being resolved right now. This whole attitude that we can't coexist peacefully with Linux is annoying. Particularly when it mutates into "whatever Linux does, let's do the opposite". (They're using GNOME, so let's use KDE.. huh?) -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message