From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 9 00:10:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22641 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from word.smith.net.au (word.smith.net.au [202.0.75.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22619 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00646; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 18:36:01 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711090806.SAA00646@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Terry Lambert cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), wghhicks@ix.netcom.com, mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x86 gods; advice? Suggestions? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Nov 1997 08:04:47 -0000." <199711090804.BAA17700@usr06.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 18:36:00 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Well, in the bad old days, I would probably have reached for Forth. > > > There is some precedent for this approach over at Sun... > > > > OpenBoot is big and expensive. > > And it doesn't lock you into x86 to run the BIOS on video cards... > where's the fun in that? I don't give a shit what it doesn't do, Terry. What *I* care about is that OpenBoot is big, it is expensive and proprietary, and it is a complete crock from the POV of usability. Sorry, that's just the way it is. 8( mike