From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Apr 5 15:57:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C6F5BD5EB for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FDZzy3kWkz4lwB; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.not-for.work (onlyone.not-for.work [148.251.9.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: lev/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5360E24EB; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.134.16] (unknown [94.19.224.8]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.not-for.work (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62B5D124C5; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 18:57:32 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? To: Cy Schubert Cc: freebsd-stable stable References: <202104051444.135EixF6025306@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 18:57:31 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202104051444.135EixF6025306@slippy.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 15:57:34 -0000 On 05.04.2021 17:44, Cy Schubert wrote: > - remove ftp:// and http:// from libfetch. This is 2021 and we should all > use https://. Please, explain how to setup simple sever which allows upload and on-server file management with https ;-) I know letters "WebDAV", but I don't know any ftp-like client for it. And server is apache24, which is much more huge security target than simple ftpd. Even `sftp` is ugly. > - replace DNS lookups with DoH and/or DoT. Why let your ISP see your DNS > traffic? As soon as FreeBSD will include in *base* system DoH/DoT recursive server (as it includes unbound for simple DNS now). I don't understand why should I trust "centralized" DoH services. Do we want to import libnghttp2 to base for this? -- // Lev Serebryakov