From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 31 8:50:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6AB37B408; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14402; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:50:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9VGo2N14277; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:50:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15328.11194.623723.611472@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:50:02 -0700 To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Cc: Nate Williams , John Baldwin , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 In-Reply-To: <3BDFB74D.4EBD3145@mindspring.com> References: <3BDED411.DDEA0BD7@mindspring.com> <15326.55441.615206.243327@caddis.yogotech.com> <3BDFB74D.4EBD3145@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > Java has several problems: > > > > > > > > I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :) > > > > > > These all devolve into programmer issues. They are no worse > > > than the requirement to use prototypes or the "volatile" > > > keyword, which were added to C. > > > > You don't *have* to use volatile in C, and the addition of the volatile > > keyword came out of C++ work. We can blame it on C++. (I have a friend > > on the C++ standards committee, and we love to give him grief about what > > a joke the language is.) > > Actually, there are situations where you _must_ use volatile > to prevent register optimization of variables. Only during OS type work, which most of the programmers never need to worry about. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message