From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 21 16:46:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0469A16A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DB643D39 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7465E2BD8C for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:46:09 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87B155121C; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:16:07 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:16:07 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Lucas Holt Message-ID: <20040322004607.GZ52612@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20040319172130.GB2044@cs025_2k> <20040319174618.GH64130@keyslapper.org> <20040319223506.GA63254@bhunter.net> <20040320195318.GA923@alex.lan> <20040321014349.GJ52612@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Z8pjODCYYz+3zRe3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Al Johnson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Top posting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:46:12 -0000 --Z8pjODCYYz+3zRe3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following message is the second in a series of three, intended to show why bottom-posting (where a reply is completely separate from the original message) is bad. See the first message (Message ID 20040322004337.GX52612@wantadilla.lemis.com) for a version that I consider understandable. On Sunday, 21 March 2004 at 19:35:48 -0500, Lucas Holt wrote: > Aside from mailing lists, I tend to be a top poster. I don't like when= =20 > people leave the last 12 emails and then bottom post.. i have to =20 > scroll all day. The other irritant is people who actually post in the=20 > middle of messages. That breaks the "FLOW" as well. After someone=20 > replies top or bottom its VERY hard to read. >=20 > How about a new convention. Delete everything but the last reply in=20 > the thread when you send to the list and say bottom post. I can live=20 > with that as a top poster. If I don't have to scroll all day to bottom= =20 > post, its not a big deal. >=20 > The bottom line is that people reply. This list is here to help users=20 > with FreeBSD. I'd take an answer to my questions in any format! >=20 >=20 > Lucas Holt > Luke@FoolishGames.com > ________________________________________________________ > FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) > JustJournal.com (Free blogging) >=20 > 'I try to think but nothing happens' > -- Homer Jay Simpson "Bottom posting", where you leave the entire previous message, is only marginally better than top posting. If the text is important, you should be reading it. If it isn't, the sender shouldn't have included it. On the contrary, it shows you what the discussion is about. In this example, I'm answering your points one by one. I'll repeat the whole thing with top posting. Tell me if it's easier to read. Agreed, mixing styles is the worst of the lot. That's a very good reason to insist on one style. What's wrong with the convention we have? I'll answer this message a third time in the style you propose. Tell me if it's easier to read. Greg --=20 Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --Z8pjODCYYz+3zRe3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAXjdPIubykFB6QiMRAmalAJsHPFPsLXRQ02JHNQduJFCSr3XPIQCcCCrw G42wSjhBr53ZMJEwtGvkLaY= =YrUz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Z8pjODCYYz+3zRe3--