From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 30 8:20:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EC337B402; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020130162040.VFKO10199.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:20:40 +0000 Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0UGKes50828; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14D63A9A; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Ruslan Ermilov , current@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest binutils import breaks Alpha cross compiles In-Reply-To: <3C576050.560CB337@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:20:39 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020130162039.D14D63A9A@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > > After the latest binutils import, attempts to cross-compile > > > Alpha fail at the cross-tools stage of buildworld as shown > > > below. Please also note sed(1) complaints about nonexistent > > > ldscripts/ files. I suspect that "normal" alpha worlds may > > > be broken as well, but I can't tell for sure. > > > > I am sure it probably is. There is a lack of developers using -current > > on Alpha's that progress on i386, IA64, x86-64, and sparc64 cannot be > > held back. I will fix the Alpha problems when I get a chance, but it may > > be a week. > > I know: add cross compilation for Alpha to your regression > on i386, IA84, x86-64, or sparc64, and that will catcth > things like this in the future, without you needing to have > Alpha hardware, and without you orphaning it as a result of > your changes. That's easy to say when signing up somebody else to do the work. Seriously though, in spite of pretending otherwise, i386 *is* our reference platform, and the "other" platforms require people with the hardware and interest to keep it "alive". This is the same with alpha as ia64, sparc64, powerpc, mips, x86-64 etc. If there isn't enough critical mass to keep it going, then it is dead by definition. Witness the mips port, it pretty much never made it to square one. I've done my bit over the last 6 months to keep the alpha alive (ported KSE phase 1 to alpha as well as 3 other platforms that I knew little to nothing about). I dont suppose you actually thought to go and have a look and see what the problem is yourself, rather than assigning the work to somebody else? Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message