From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Fri Nov 30 08:31:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A985F115CD84 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.hartland@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail-ed1-x532.google.com (mail-ed1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B0F576131 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.hartland@multiplay.co.uk) Received: by mail-ed1-x532.google.com with SMTP id h50so4152972ede.5 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=multiplay-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=XoVkJKLHrjkt7BUJ3nocUf+Ox2+OCUatAiGViS84Evk=; b=0pXrpte2Po05ji/Cy+6YS32nS3wUryCill3RXvkasfE7+wbNIhM+W7CjUz5ZvODuxI ZEVwW8H2KhzzHdd8t6oOBNXmweQzHxBzr3Kbz0mERElGGhPxrJGtK4yPdHkCrJ59xnRr EEVLukrHF0EGaFFwQN5If/y/JT18420g0kwsjU5zv0yWZLfjqC0NQQg+3w0hLHWvn9ZJ kXSsO4H5dMn54ifnMrc9yYPOkonP+cTkR0IdHOgfkvCC2BOlrTzeOYI1eRi05VQL5vR2 MccfWs+CUynCag6qYkiUi2JMVwnUWkgZo70De0jyL+goHUN4Qof+MnqjE7Fz2OW9BnX5 l2TA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=XoVkJKLHrjkt7BUJ3nocUf+Ox2+OCUatAiGViS84Evk=; b=po4Y18lphp1mK0RKPUW9x/f6KZYw78rWU6WL7LnIJdZIrOWiD6xvHHRjd3/snAiiT/ i/2ss6M7IHdlixWACq1myRVGQPf2aSzsA+Pd2iAvvnKTGig/TTJaIjwirnS5smlDsq4J e4ub0wHvpNJYXFwLu4YE+MWoa0nUcyM7bgJ3fhplh0sBy5YwPXVc/u+xY1qXTUdF0JKQ 4oo4B1ju/g2Zh6y9fgUzGFvK5C1IX5eOkHhcgksGXHZBe+GQNFGPjizz77Bo6524yJJL WW6YVlgfFA/TPSMHz/jxXPa9pRbj+4D11h0wjMBGd8omRrxMZtkVimVBEh2l+avd9bOA Ls3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWb0hfPcQuCTbFLMwUASzc8zHfna+LLc7EENk1jedi5Cx0n8rVzw 0U85bhecDxs99L4lqezwptu7ZQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VjIb5xwbOfnjrTQ+W4NfnS1wMBsiNi/1qw2ezLFMt7fnibw177Zc7FsDxBz4gNm62Bsh62EA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6dcb:: with SMTP id j11-v6mr4034554ejt.162.1543566677489; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.44.128.75] ([161.12.40.153]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t21-v6sm709368ejk.33.2018.11.30.00.31.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:31:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: svn: head/usr.bin: . trim To: Cy Schubert , Alexey Dokuchaev , Maxim Sobolev Cc: "eugen@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers References: <20181130011713.42B641D27@spqr.komquats.com> From: Steven Hartland Message-ID: <0e233c0c-6c80-4618-9618-48162362a849@multiplay.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:31:17 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181130011713.42B641D27@spqr.komquats.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5B0F576131 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[multiplay-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[svn-src-head@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[multiplay.co.uk]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[multiplay-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.19)[ip: (-8.04), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.46), asn: 15169(-1.34), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:31:20 -0000 Personally I disagree, chances of people finding that option in dd is slim, a dedicated trim utility makes much more sense to me. Sure have both that's cool but keep the trim would be my vote. On 30/11/2018 01:17, Cy Schubert wrote: > Agreed. > > --- > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. > > Cy Schubert > or > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Alexey Dokuchaev > Sent: 29/11/2018 17:01 > To: Maxim Sobolev > Cc: eugen@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org; > svn-src-all@freebsd.org; src-committers > Subject: Re: svn: head/usr.bin: . trim > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:36:02AM -0800, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Interesting. I have a similar functionality implemented as an option for > > the dd utility in my pipeline (conv=erase). > > Which probably makes a better place rather than adding 4-letter program, > commonly named ("trim" is a simple word), into global namespace. :-/ > > ./danfe >