From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 14:47:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EF9106566C; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.no-ip.org) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207348FC14; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 175-3.192-178.cust.bluewin.ch ([178.192.3.175] helo=gahr.no-ip.org) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHcMB-0007dD-9b; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:47:43 +0200 Received: by gahr.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F3354505F; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:47:41 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti To: araujo@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120410144741.GC73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201204092351.q39Npi6F025202@repoman.freebsd.org> <20120410091537.GK98668@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20120410114537.GL17460@culot.org> <20120410115630.GB2456@lonesome.com> <20120410124449.GB73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kfjH4zxOES6UT95V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: 0x9571F78E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1203 92B5 3919 AF84 9B97 28D6 C0C2 6A98 9571 F78E User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.no-ip.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: bapt@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Frederic Culot , cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/8kingdoms Makefile ports/misc/airoflash Makefile ports/graphics/autopano-sift Makefile ports/x11/avant-window-navigator-xfce4 Makefile ports/lang/boo Makefile ports/x11/cl-clx-sbcl Makefile ports/palm/coldsync ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:47:45 -0000 --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Apr-10, 11:20, Marcelo Araujo wrote: > 2012/4/10 Pietro Cerutti > > > > > > I might agree on that. But how is a DEPRECATED port better than a BROKEN > > one in this regard? > > > > > In my point of view, no make sense have a bunch of ports that actually > doesn't works or because there is a fetch problem or even it is set as > BROKEN. Who never was upset when need and find a port but it is BROKEN for > some reason, In my view, have a port BROKEN or haven't it, is the same. Of > course, I mean when a port is BROKEN for all plataforms as well as for all > FreeBSD version. I agree on that. >=20 > I believe set it as DEPRECATED is a good way to make the maintainer take > attention to fix it soon as possible, due he has put effort to insert this > software on the ports tree in the past. What about submitting a PR, as we usually do for anything else? If it's ok to wait 15 days (maintainer timeout) to commit an update to a port that brings in important features, it is even more so to wait to deprecate one. > In case that has any issue related with the ports framework that make the > ports be broken, he can ping any developer to give him more time to fix or > even rollback the DEPRECATED commit with a proper message on the commit's > log. This is awkward. We're not supposed to spend our time rolling back unwanted commits. We're supposed to make sure that a commit made to someone else's port is wanted in the first place. > It also will let us know, what's happen with that port and maybe someone > else could give a hand to help the maintainer to fix it. Well, as I see it, marking a port as DEPRECATED is kind of a final decision. I.e., I'll start to look at alternatives and forget about it. If you mark a port as DEPRECATED and 12 hours later I back off your chance with a comment "I'm working on it", a really unconsistent and confused message will pass. --=20 Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk+ESA0ACgkQwMJqmJVx947+UQCgs7tk7eBZcI52xCD5Ntn+54Oc m2wAnid+1bfqh2GIg63OXwmbULdvWzOj =gTA9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V--