From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A537B401 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pm.star.spb.ru (mail-pm.star.spb.ru [217.195.82.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA9643FA3 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkritsky@internethelp.ru) Received: from pink.star.spb.ru ([217.195.82.10]) by mail-pm.star.spb.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7CMNMPW047062; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:23:23 +0400 (MSD) Received: from IBMKA ([217.195.82.7]) by pink.star.spb.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PQJDYFS4; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:23:22 +0400 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:23:53 +0400 From: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <150361279001.20030813022353@internethelp.ru> To: "Devon H. O'Dell" In-reply-To: <004201c3611f$4fda68a0$9f8d2ed5@internal> References: <004201c3611f$4fda68a0$9f8d2ed5@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Darren Reed' cc: security@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:23:36 -0000 Hello Devon, go to -chat please with this discussion. Or maybe to -advocacy no oofence meant. it's just off-topic for this list. Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 2:16:00 AM, you wrote: DHOD> Well this takes about $1,000,000 off our previous figure. DHOD> --Devon >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> security@freebsd.org] Namens twig les >> Verzonden: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:13 AM >> Aan: Darren Reed >> CC: security@freebsd.org >> Onderwerp: Re: Certification (was RE: realpath(3) et al) >> >> Just saw this from eWeek. >> >> "IBM, which paid roughly $500,000 for the testing, and SuSE >> (pronounced "SOOS-ah") were announcing the certification >> jointly. " >> >> The article is here: >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1212529,00.asp >> >> >> >> --- Darren Reed wrote: >> > In some mail from twig les, sie said: >> > > >> > > I actually just asked about FreeBSD's status regarding >> > Common >> > > Criteria last week on -questions but no one knew; one guy >> > > answered that it would be wasteful. Is this the cert on >> > > everyone's mind? It would be nice to have this cert for the >> > 5.x >> > > line but I understand that it is massively expensive and the >> > > resources may be better spent on development. Has the team >> > > discussed this? >> > >> > Yes, evaluation is massively expensive. Why ? >> > >> > Because you have to pay someone (at consultant rates) to do >> > the >> > evaluation. A single firewall product, in Australia, can >> > expect >> > a cost of between $200k and $400k, I'm told. Now put that in >> > perspective of size vs an entire operating system, including >> > larger project overheads, etc, and the number swells >> > dramatically. >> > Oh, those numbers are in Australian Dollars. >> > >> > Darren >> >> >> ===== >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Emo is what happens when the glee club goes punk. >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >> http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" DHOD> _______________________________________________ DHOD> freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list DHOD> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security DHOD> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ;------------------------------------------- ; NKritsky ; mailto:nkritsky@internethelp.ru