From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Mar 15 11:20:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13C937B71F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11418; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:16:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA7laWmw; Thu Mar 15 12:16:43 2001 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18623; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:19:57 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200103151919.MAA18623@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] add a SITE MD5 command to ftpd To: jabley@automagic.org (Joe Abley) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Cc: adrian@FreeBSD.ORG (Adrian Chadd), freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, roam@orbitel.bg (Peter Pentchev) In-Reply-To: <20010315092047.E8289@buddha.home.automagic.org> from "Joe Abley" at Mar 15, 2001 09:20:47 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > *OR* you could distribute the problem the way it is naturally > distributed, and build a mechanism whereby a downloaded distfile > that fails its MD5 check on any recent build of FreeBSD causes > a notification to be sent back to the mother ship. I like this idea, but it is orthogonal. However, it would be a useful thing to do first. I suggest that this be done _now_, and that statistics be collected on failures; people can subsequently use those statistics to decide whether a SITE MD5 capability is really justified, or if people are just for it because they have a better memory for failure than for success. I'd suggest instrumenting other information for statistical collection only, such as installation counts for all ports. This would also let us finally answer the "KDE vs. Gnome for default desktop?" question, as well as letting us know if some "xxx" utility should be part of the base installation instead of a port. It's worthwhile, so long as the information is statistical only, and that rereporting for a single system reinstall is somehow supressed to keep people from "stacking the deck" in favor of having the Ada compiler installed by default (as an extreme example). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message