From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 1 13:15:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C23816A417 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F017913C447 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l91DDvAx045073; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l91DDvao045072; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:13:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:13:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200710011313.l91DDvao045072@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, koitsu@FreeBSD.ORG, Aryeh Friedman In-Reply-To: <20071001065938.GA81735@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-current User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: various rants about 7-currnet on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, koitsu@FreeBSD.ORG, Aryeh Friedman List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:15:20 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:30:59AM +0000, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > * AMD64 should be recommended (or at least better documented) for all > > dual-core machines > > This argument is flawed, in my opinion. Right. I prefer to run i386 on the dual-core Athlon64 X2 that I got recently at the office. (It's running well with RELENG_6 and 7-current, BTW.) > I think a more appropriate phrase would be: "amd64 should be recommended > for anyone that uses 4GB of RAM or more, and doesn't want to be hit by > performance penalties induced by PAE on i386". That's only half of the story ... Additionally, amd64 should be recommended for anyone who requires 4 GB of address space and more, irrespective of the amount of RAM. In particular, amd64 should be recommended if ZFS is to be used. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I learned Java 3 years before Python. It was my language of choice. It took me two weekends with Python before I was more productive with it than with Java." -- Anthony Roberts