From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Dec 20 12:16:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47F137B41B for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23345 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 20:16:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2001 20:16:30 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01d701c1898c$00b28210$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:16:13 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Microsoft Advocacy? Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Gilbert Gong , Jeremiah Gowdy Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Dec-01 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Jeremiah writes: > >> The minute kernel developers start concentrating >> on coding for desktop applications, and any large >> share of their time is spent on the desktop aspect, >> I will know it is time to move to another *BSD. > > I fully agree. This is one of my concerns for FreeBSD. I expect Linux to > move in that direction, but since it is such a crude operating system to > begin with, I don't see that as much of a loss. FreeBSD, on the other hand, > is a fine server operating system, and compromising its strengths just to > make it look better on the desktop would be a step in the wrong direction. > > Microsoft made this same mistake with its transition from NT 3.x to NT 4.x, > in which it compromised stability and security on the NT platform in order > to more intimately integrate the GUI into the kernel. While that helped NT > on the desktop (which was presumably the goal), it hurt NT as a server. FreeBSD is never going to integrate a GUI into its kernel. That should just be phenomenally stupid. :) However, it can provide optimizations to make the OS better support desktop software. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message