From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 12:49:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A17610A8FE8; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD54694C5F; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42Qt574NgSz1ftWX; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:49:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42Qt573dbmz1ftWT; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:49:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C5E23949; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:49:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:49:47 +0200 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: <45c44128-85cb-5b4c-3af3-cbdf1560c9be@grosbein.net> References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <45c44128-85cb-5b4c-3af3-cbdf1560c9be@grosbein.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <42Qt573dbmz1ftWT@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:49:55 -0000 On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 13:03:01 +0700 Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > The current list of drivers that will STAY in the tree is: > > > > dc, ffec, fxpl, hme, le, sis, vr, xl > > "fxpl" should have been "fxp" here, I suppose. > > While I have no objection for general direction, I have doubts about removal > of ste(4) and especially rl(4). These are cheap 100Mbit VERY popular NICs > sold in enourmous values in certain markets by vendors like D-Link and > TP-Link using various trade names. > > Lack of support for such popular 100M cards won't be good for FreeBSD, I > suppose. + 1 I have a lot of them in production systems. It would be a pity that they will never get a 12.x or newer version ever. I can replace few de cards but not everything... Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/