From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 12 20:18:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E433C16A4CE for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FA43D1F for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from areilly@bigpond.net.au) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (ppp154.dyn230b.pacific.net.au [203.143.230.154]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3p2/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA19171 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:18:28 +1100 Received: (qmail 12486 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Feb 2004 04:18:31 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:18:31 +1100 To: Tom Arnold Message-ID: <20040213041831.GA12350@gurney.reilly.home> References: <20040212235605.GP13780@moo.sysabend.org> <20040213022010.GA2331@frontfree.net> <20040213024837.GQ13780@moo.sysabend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040213024837.GQ13780@moo.sysabend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upcoming filesystems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:18:32 -0000 On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 06:48:38PM -0800, Tom Arnold wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 10:20:10AM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > > Personally I'd prefer the SoftUpdates approach, so I am more interested > > in what made you to think it doesn't fit your needs, performance? > > security features? or others? > > Boot time. Large small-block filesystems take forever to come > up at bootime Forever being approx 10 minutes per filesystem > for the snapshot to occur, with 3 filesystems on the machine > it adds up. Why are your filsystems going down dirty? Are you crashing the system, or is your power supply dodgy? If it's the latter, then a UPS ought to sort out the problem. If you shutdown cleanly, then it should come up without needing a fsck at all (background or otherwise). -- Andrew