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Message-ID: <20190723204435.51c334d6@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 854616FC2D X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(1.59)[ip: (3.98), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.27), asn: 34010(1.79), country: GB(-0.08)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.981,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.990,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[206.176.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:44:42 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:18:48 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >Since there is only a $15 (at most) between 450/600 W (roughly the >same price range) and 850 W I mightiest well do overkill Regarding the PSU I'm in favour of overkill, too, if fundable. I'm surprised about the minimal price differences. I would take a look at the Ampere available on the secondary side. While I disagree with Paul Pathiakis regarding the "overkill", he has good a good point: "efficiency" Consumption on the primary side doesn't say much about what you get on the secondary side. Off-topic: For audio gear I'm still in favour of ring core transformer or even normal transformer baser power supplies. However, slowly but surely switched-mode power supplies gain the upper hand, even in my audio home studio. To be honest, I don't really suffer from the meassurable issues caused by switched-mode power supplies, they don't affect audio productions, but actually in the last years I needed to repair more switched-mode power supplies, than taken together all repairs on my audio gear + the audio and video gear when working as an engineer, I had to do within the last decades.