From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:16:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emulation@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FF716A407; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B60B13C48A; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5F83D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.248.61]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5545C2E1E9; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:16:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7877C5B4817; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2GFG0Qs079159; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:16:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:16:00 +0100 Message-ID: <20070316161600.4r0gg5jk2sc4wwwo@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:16:00 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Divacky Roman References: <20070316120038.2iizia24mc4wcw8s@webmail.leidinger.net> <20070316122658.GA31977@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> In-Reply-To: <20070316122658.GA31977@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-15.364, required 8, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -15.00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:00:47 +0000 Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, rdivacky@freebsd.org, kib@freebsd.org, jkim@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.6.16 for linuxulator & 7.0 release X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:11 -0000 Quoting Divacky Roman (from Fri, 16 Mar =20 2007 13:26:58 +0100): > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:00:38PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> In p4 we have the futex/TLS stuff for amd64 but because of the futexes >> not completely right part it is not committed to current yet. As we >> already have the futex and TLS stuff for i386 on a similar level in >> current, I would say we should go ahead and sync the amd64 stuff. It >> is not used by default, so we don't break existing linux stuff and we >> get the benefit of more people being able to have a look at it and >> play with it. So what are your opinions, shall we give jkim@ the green >> light to MFp4 the futex/TLS stuff? > > futexes are broken... I just recieved a report that oracle installer > hangs on amd64/SMP waiting on a lock. The TLS@amd64 looks good though > > I dont see any harm in commiting futexes/TLS for amd64 - go for it kim! > > I'd like to see the linux-aio commited as well before 7.0R I did not had time to have a look at it. I don't know when I get time. >> Regarding the futexes not being completely right and the epoll stuff: >> I think it needs to be done now, not in a month or two, else we don't >> have enough time to let people play with this before the release of >> 7.0. Anyone with a little bit of time at hand out there? We need a >> specification what the futexes are supposed to do (so far we didn't >> find a good description, and the linux code is hard to read and >> doesn't not really tell what it is _supposed_ to do) and we need >> people which compare the current code we have with this specification. >> Finding a regression test for futexes would also be nice. > > I plan to apply for SoC this year with a plan to implement epoll/inotify > interface + "finish" the linux26 stuff... if I get elected I guess things > will move forward fast :) I definitely plan to look at the futexes (we hav= e > a testing program so its not that hard) I will not have time to mentor this year. I intent to participate in =20 the application voting process only. I don't know if another committer =20 is willing to mentor a linuxulator project in the SoC. Bye, Alexander. --=20 "No job too big; no fee too big!" =09=09-- Dr. Peter Venkman, "Ghost-busters" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137