From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Dec 20 14:37:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2AE1348FBB for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10765834D2; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id CE0BEBA38; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:37:41 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: "Eugene M. Zheganin" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20181220143741.GA40569@FreeBSD.org> References: <20181219163033.jwm7opiwmdhbk6p3@mutt-hbsd> <4481f3cb-4535-bed3-c09f-429553f8f88b@zhegan.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4481f3cb-4535-bed3-c09f-429553f8f88b@zhegan.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 10765834D2 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.86 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.869,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:37:42 -0000 On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:49:38PM +0500, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > > run by the same developers as it has been. We are just commonizing on > > the repo that has the most features integrated into it. > > Does it mean that ZoF and thus FreeBSD will lose NFSv4 ACLs because > there is no such thing in ZoL? +1. I'm also worried if this would bring more Linuxish bits into our kernel (cf. LinuxKPI). Also, I thought that ZFS was never really native to Linux but implemented through SPL (Solaris Porting Layer), and Linux' VFS is not ARC-aware unlike Solaris and FreeBSD. It would be quite upsetting to see ZFS as we know it in FreeBSD become pessimized because of those things. :-( ./danfe