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Date:      Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:08:44 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Viren R.Shah <viren@cigital.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: TI PCI-4451 Cardbus controller? 
Message-ID:  <15061.61228.511165.367802@jabberwock.cigital.com>
In-Reply-To: <15061.50929.210263.651840@jabberwock.cigital.com>
References:  <15060.23999.115770.742614@jabberwock.cigital.com> <200104120604.f3C64xI41483@harmony.village.org> <15061.50929.210263.651840@jabberwock.cigital.com>

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[Warner, let me know if you want me to remove you from the Cc: line]

>>>>> "VRS" == Viren R Shah <viren@cigital.com> writes:

>>>>> "Warner" == Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org> writes:
 Warner> "Viren R.Shah" writes:
 Warner> : I have a Dell Latitude C800 laptop that has 2 Cardbus controllers. 
 Warner> Cool.
 Warner> : TI PCI-4451 Cardbus Controllers

The saga continues.....


So, I added in what I thought were appropriate entries in pccbb.c and
pccbbreg.h (see prior email), compiled and booted with a NEWCARD
kernel (the only addition was acpi). Here's my dmesg. 

It now recognizes the Cardbus controllers, but it doesn't look like
they got the necessary resources ("requested unsupported memory
range"). Also, I'm now getting "acquring duplicate lock of same type:"
msgs on boot (as can be seen at the tail end of the dmesg).

Anyone have any ideas as to what I need to do next?


Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Apr 12 13:04:14 EDT 2001
    root@slithytove.cigital.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWCARD
Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 848130391 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193166 Hz
CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 848148209 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (848.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 268353536 (262064K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x0062a000 - 0x0ffe3fff, 261857280 bytes (63930 pages)
config> di pcic1
config> di pcic0
config> q
FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2
 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual
 configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or
 serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics).
config> ls
Device   port       irq   drq   iomem   iosize   unit  flags      enab
adv0     0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
aha0     0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
aic0     0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
apm0     0          0     0     0       0        0     0x20       No   
ata0     0x1f0      14    0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
ata1     0x170      15    0     0       0        1     0          Yes  
atkbd0   0          1     0     0       0        0     0x1        Yes  
atkbdc0  0x60       0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
bt0      0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
cs0      0x300      0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
ed0      0x280      10    0     d8000   0        0     0          Yes  
fd0      0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
fd1      0          0     0     0       0        1     0          Yes  
fdc0     0x3f0      6     2     0       0        0     0          Yes  
fe0      0x300      0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
ie0      0x300      10    0     d0000   0        0     0          Yes  
le0      0x300      5     0     d0000   0        0     0          Yes  
lnc0     0x280      10    0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
npx0     0xf0       13    0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
pcic0    0x3e0      0     0     d0000   0        0     0          No   
pcic1    0x3e2      11    0     d4000   0        1     0          No   
pcm0     0          10    1     0       0        0     0          Yes  
 
Device   port       irq   drq   iomem   iosize   unit  flags      enab
pmtimer0 0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
ppc0     0          7     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
psm0     0          12    0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
sc0      0          0     0     0       0        0     0x100      Yes  
sio0     0x3f8      4     0     0       0        0     0x10       Yes  
sio1     0x2f8      3     0     0       0        1     0          Yes  
sio2     0x3e8      5     0     0       0        2     0          No   
sio3     0x2e8      9     0     0       0        3     0          No   
sn0      0x300      10    0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
vga0     0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  
vt0      0          0     0     0       0        0     0          Yes  

Number of EISA slots to probe: 10
config> q
avail memory = 255033344 (249056K bytes)
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00ffe80
bios32: Entry = 0xffe90 (c00ffe90)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0xc06e
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fe2d0
pnpbios: Entry = f0000:e2f4  Rev = 1.0
pnpbios: Event flag at 4b4
Other BIOS signatures found:
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0604000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc06040a8.
null: <null device, zero device>
random: <entropy source>
mem: <memory & I/O>
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
WARNING: Driver mistake: destroy_dev on 154/0
Math emulator present
ACPI debug layer 0x0  debug level 0x0
Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00fbc20
acpi0: <DELL   CPi R  > on motherboard
acpi_tz0: <thermal zone> on acpi0
acpi_acad0: <AC adapter> on acpi0
acpi_acad0: On Line
acpi_cmbat0: <Control method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_cmbat1: <Control method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_button0: <Control Method Power Button Device> on acpi0
acpi_button1: <Control Method Sleep Button Device> on acpi0
acpi_pcib0: <Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
pci0: physical bus=0
	map[10]: type 3, range 32, base e4000000, size 26, enabled
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1130, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=0, func=0
	class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1131, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=1, func=0
	class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2448, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=30, func=0
	class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x244c, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=31, func=0
	class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
	map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000bfa0, size  4, enabled
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x244a, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=31, func=1
	class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000dce0, size  5, enabled
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2442, revid=0x02
	bus=0, slot=31, func=2
	class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	intpin=d, irq=11
pci0: <PCI bus> on acpi_pcib0
pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pcib1:   secondary bus     1
pcib1:   subordinate bus   1
pcib1:   I/O decode        0xc000-0xcfff
pcib1:   memory decode     0xfc000000-0xfdffffff
pcib1:   prefetched decode 0xe8000000-0xebffffff
pci1: physical bus=1
	map[10]: type 3, range 32, base e8000000, size 26, enabled
	map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000cc00, size  8, enabled
	map[18]: type 1, range 32, base fcffc000, size 14, enabled
found->	vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4d46, revid=0x00
	bus=1, slot=0, func=0
	class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	intpin=a, irq=11
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <display, VGA> at 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pcib2:   secondary bus     2
pcib2:   subordinate bus   2
pcib2:   I/O decode        0xe000-0xffff
pcib2:   memory decode     0xf4000000-0xfbffffff
pcib2:   prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff
pci2: physical bus=2
	map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000ec00, size  8, enabled
	map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f8ffe000, size 13, enabled
found->	vendor=0x125d, dev=0x1998, revid=0x10
	bus=2, slot=3, func=0
	class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	intpin=a, irq=5
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
	map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e880, size  7, enabled
	map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f8ffdc00, size  7, enabled
found->	vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x9200, revid=0x78
	bus=2, slot=8, func=0
	class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	intpin=a, irq=10
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
found->	vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac42, revid=0x00
	bus=2, slot=15, func=0
	class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1
	intpin=a, irq=11
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
found->	vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac42, revid=0x00
	bus=2, slot=15, func=1
	class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1
	intpin=a, irq=11
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
	map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f8ffd000, size 11, enabled
	map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f8ff8000, size 14, enabled
found->	vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8027, revid=0x00
	bus=2, slot=15, func=2
	class=0c-00-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
	intpin=a, irq=11
	powerspec 2  supports D0 D2 D3  current D0
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
pci2: <multimedia, audio> at 3.0 (no driver attached)
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe880-0xe8ff mem 0xf8ffdc00-0xf8ffdc7f irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci2
pcib2: device xl0 requested decoded I/O range 0xe880-0xe8ff
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:b0:d0:a7:a4:c1
xl0: media options word: a
xl0: found MII/AUTO
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
bpf: xl0 attached
pccbb0: <TI4451 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 11 at device 15.0 on pci2
pcib2: device pccbb0 requested unsupported memory range 0x44000000-0xefffffff (decoding 0xf4000000-0xfbffffff, 0xfff00000-0xfffff)
pccbb0: Could not grab register memory
device_probe_and_attach: pccbb0 attach returned 12
pccbb0: <TI4451 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 11 at device 15.1 on pci2
pcib2: device pccbb0 requested unsupported memory range 0x44000000-0xefffffff (decoding 0xf4000000-0xfbffffff, 0xfff00000-0xfffff)
pccbb0: Could not grab register memory
device_probe_and_attach: pccbb0 attach returned 12
pci2: <serial bus, FireWire> at 15.2 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Generic PCI ATA controller> port 0xbfa0-0xbfaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xbfa0
ata0: mask=03 ostat0=52 ostat2=50
ata0-master: ATAPI probe 00 00
ata0-slave: ATAPI probe 14 eb
ata0: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00
ata0-master: ATA probe 01 a5
ata0: devices=09
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xbfa8
ata1: mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat2=00
ata1-master: ATAPI probe 00 00
ata1-slave: ATAPI probe 00 00
ata1: mask=03 stat0=00 stat1=00
ata1: devices=00
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device 31.2 on pci0
uhci0: (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086)
usb0: cannot stop
usb0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: (0x24428086) UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> on acpi0
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
ata-: ata0 already exists, using ata2 instead
ata-: ata1 already exists, using ata3 instead
Trying Read_Port at 203
Trying Read_Port at 243
Trying Read_Port at 283
Trying Read_Port at 2c3
Trying Read_Port at 303
Trying Read_Port at 343
Trying Read_Port at 383
Trying Read_Port at 3c3
too many dependant configs
too many dependant configs
too many dependant configs
too many dependant configs
ex_isa_identify()
sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead
vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead
isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices
isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices
adv0 failed to probe at port 0x330 on isa0
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0: status reg test failed ff
aha0 failed to probe at port 0x134-0x137 on isa0
aic0 failed to probe at port 0x140-0x15f on isa0
ata2 failed to probe at port 0x1f0 irq 14 on isa0
ata3 failed to probe at port 0x170 irq 15 on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2)
kbd0 at atkbd0
kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000
psm0: current command byte:0065
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons
psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3
psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x330
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x334
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x230
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x234
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x130
bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff
bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x134
bt0 failed to probe at port 0x134-0x137 on isa0
cs0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x31f on isa0
ed0 failed to probe at port 0x280-0x29f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
fe0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x31f on isa0
ie0 failed to probe at port 0x300 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0
le0 failed to probe at port 0x300 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
lnc0 failed to probe at port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 on isa0
pcic0: not probed (disabled)
pcic1: not probed (disabled)
mss_probe: no address given, try 0x530
mss_detect, busy still set (0xff)
pcm0 failed to probe at port 0x530-0x537,0xf8c-0xf94,0xe0e irq 10 drq 1 on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378
ppc0: using extended I/O port range
ppc0: ECP SPP ECP+EPP SPP
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
bpf: lp0 attached
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal)
sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: irq maps: 0x41 0x41 0x41 0x41
sio1: probe failed test(s): 0 1 2 4 6 7 9
sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio2: not probed (disabled)
sio3: not probed (disabled)
sn0: Cannot allocate irq
sn0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f
fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000
fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24
fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k
vga0: vga: WARNING: video mode switching is not fully supported on this adapter
VGA parameters upon power-up
50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 6f 4f 4f 93 55 c3 
9e 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 06 e0 8f 82 8f 28 1f 8f 
9f a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24
50 18 0e 00 10 01 03 00 02 a3 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4d 0b 0c 00 00 00 00 83 85 5d 28 1f 63 
ba a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 08 00 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24
50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 6f 4f 4f 93 55 c3 
9e 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 06 e0 8f 82 8f 28 1f 8f 
9f a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
vt0 failed to probe on isa0
sc1: no video adapter is found.
sc1: <System console> failed to probe on isa0
vga1: <Generic ISA VGA> failed to probe on isa0
isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0xcf8 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x330.  Failing probe.
unknown: <PNP0F13> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0F13> at irq 12 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0303> at port 0x60 on isa0
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x70 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x100.  Failing probe.
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x40 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x100.  Failing probe.
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x61 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x100.  Failing probe.
unknown: <PNP0800> failed to probe at port 0x61,0x63,0x65,0x67 on isa0
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x24 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x100.  Failing probe.
unknown: <PNP0200> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0200> at port 0-0xf,0x88-0x97,0xc0-0xdf,0x10-0x1f,0x90-0x91 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0700> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0700> at port 0x3f2-0x3f5 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0501> at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 3,4 on isa0
unknown: <SMCF010> can't assign resources
unknown: <SMCF010> at port 0x2f8-0x2ff,0x270-0x277,0x3e8-0x3ef,0x278-0x27f,0x2e8-0x2ef,0x280-0x287,0x3e8-0x3ef irq 3,4 on isa0
adv1: Invalid baseport of 0x278 specified. Nearest valid baseport is 0x330.  Failing probe.
ppc1: using extended I/O port range
unknown: <ECP parallel printer port> failed to probe at port 0x278-0x287,0x678-0x67b,0x3bc-0x3bf,0x7bc-0x7bf on isa0
BIOS Geometries:
 0:03fefe3f 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 0 accounted for
Device configuration finished.
bpf: lo0 attached
bpf: ppp0 attached
bpf: faith0 attached
bpf: gif0 attached
bpf: gif1 attached
bpf: gif2 attached
bpf: gif3 attached
acpi_acad0: Notify 128
acpi_acad0: On Line
ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
Creating DISK ad0
ad0: <HITACHI_DK23BA-10/00E2A0D2> ATA-5 disk at ata0-master
ad0: 9590MB (19640880 sectors), 19485 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B
ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, BIOSDMA
ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=4 cblid=0
ata0-slave: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 dmaflag=1
ata0-slave: success setting PIO4 on generic chip
acd0: <TEAC CD-ROM CD-224E/3.7C> CDROM drive at ata0 as slave
acd0: read 4134KB/s (34515KB/s), 128KB buffer, PIO4
acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet
acd0: Writes:
acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable trayacd0: Medium: no/blank disc, unlocked
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
ad0s1: type 0x7, start 63, end = 4192964, size 4192902 : OK
ad0s2: type 0xa5, start 4192965, end = 9301634, size 5108670 : OK
ad0s3: type 0x6, start 9301635, end = 19631429, size 10329795 : OK
start_init: trying /sbin/init
acquring duplicate lock of same type: "allproc"
 1st @ ../../kern/kern_proc.c:584
 2nd @ ../../kern/kern_proc.c:143


-- 
Viren R. Shah {viren @ cigital . com}
"Never hire a ferret to do a weasel's job"

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