Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 12:10:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Daniel Ebdrup Jensen <debdrup@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Regarding /cdrom in hier(7) Message-ID: <CANCZdfrENC8nrUx_TF_y2gaBEAD9zJVWJCHMh3%2B1O3g%2B4eM-Ww@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20200507180844.7kb5hdn7awqejsay@nerd-thinkpad.local> References: <20200507112346.GA53286@freefall.freebsd.org> <202005071626.047GQQH1048671@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20200507174554.3agocyzveprspnyi@nerd-thinkpad.local> <CANCZdfqG71ihBp03GWgPxYpqDyeFDPYT7SnSHGvTXZVorm6EaA@mail.gmail.com> <20200507180844.7kb5hdn7awqejsay@nerd-thinkpad.local>
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On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:08 PM Daniel Ebdrup Jensen <debdrup@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 12:00:47PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > >On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:46 AM Daniel Ebdrup Jensen <debdrup@freebsd.org > > > >wrote: > > > >> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 09:26:26AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> >> After a bit of a long conversation on IRC, I've concluded that > perhaps > >> >> it's time for the /cdrom entry in hier(7) to be sent off to better > >> >> pastures. > >> >> > >> >> It's got a bit of a weird history where, before it was implemented, > >> >> sysinstall used /mnt/dists until that was changed on the 22nd of May > >> >> 1995, as shown on [1] - and it isn't readily apparent why it was > >> >> changed, as presumably information from cdroms could easily have been > >> >> extracted into /mnt/dists from /mnt/cdrom? > >> >> > >> >> After then, it spent a bunch of years being hard-coded, until on > >> >> the 22nd of January, 1997 when it was changed to fix media > >> >> initialization, as shown on [2]. > >> >> > >> >> Media initialization then got moved, along with the rest of > >> >> sysinstall, with [3], where it spent its days until [4] where > >> >> nwhitehorn@ gave it a proper sendoff. > >> >> > >> >> So my proposal is this: Do we remove /cdrom from hier(7), because at > >> >> this point nobody should've been using it some time after 1997, or do > >> >> we keep it around since people might still be using it? > >> >> > >> >> Yours hopefully, > >> >> Daniel Ebdrup Jensen > >> >> > >> >> [1]: > >> > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/release/sysinstall/media_strategy.c?r1=8701&r2=8702&pathrev=8790& > >> >> [2]: > >> > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/release/sysinstall/cdrom.c?revision=21937&view=markup&pathrev=21937 > >> >> [3]: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/71150 > >> >> [4]: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/225937 > >> > > >> > > >> >It is time to go, BUTT you need to clean up more than just hier(7), > >> >as this like most changes in FreeBSD is a weed and it has roots > >> >all over the place: > >> > > >> >:root {1007}# find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs zgrep -i /cdrom > >> >./man1/locate.1.gz:$ locate -d $HOME/lib/mydb::/cdrom/locate.database > foo > >> >./man1/locate.1.gz:.Pa /cdrom/locate.database . > >> >./man1/cdcontrol.1.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom , > >> >./man1/recoverdisk.1.gz:recoverdisk /cdrom/file.avi file.avi > >> >./man8/ggatec.8.gz:client# mount_cd9660 /dev/ggate0 /cdrom > >> >./man8/mount.8.gz:mount -t cd9660 -o -e /dev/cd0 /cdrom > >> >./man8/mount.8.gz:/sbin/mount_cd9660 -e /dev/cd0 /cdrom > >> >./man8/mount_cd9660.8.gz:.Dl "mount_cd9660 -o rw -v -s 0 /dev/cd0 > /cdrom" > >> >./man5/devfs.conf.5.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom > >> >./man5/devfs.conf.5.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:/cdrom -alldirs,quiet,ro -network 192.168.33.0 > -mask > >> 255.255.255.0 > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom , > >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom > >> >./man5/fstab.5.gz:/dev/cd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto > >> 0 0 > >> >./man7/hier.7.gz:.It Pa /cdrom/ > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Rod Grimes > >> rgrimes@freebsd.org > >> > >> Thanks, Rod. > >> > >> That's why I thought I'd ask first, because I knew it was not just the > >> man-page > >> that needed tending to - though I see you've found even more instances > >> than I > >> did in a quick grep through things. I'll make a note of all the places, > >> then > >> wait a bit longer to see if anyone has anything to say on the topic, > then > >> set to it. > >> > >> Hopefully I'll get around to it some time before hedgehogs start > >> hibernating. :) > >> > > > >The handbook also has a lot of references too: > > > >% cd doc/head > >% grep -r /cdrom en_US.ISO8859-1/ | grep -v cdrom.com | wc > > 478 1457 56420 > > > >Warner > > Fair enough, maybe it'll be some time after hedgehogs stop hibernating > then. ;) > Fortunately, most of them are in release notes (which won't change): grep -r /cdrom en_US.ISO8859-1/ | grep -v cdrom.com | grep -v /releases/ | wc 27 148 3473 So it's not too bad. Only 8 articles need to be changed. Warner
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