From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 21:01:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4205D16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:01:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF11743D45 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:01:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jsconiers@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so929405wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=icZbVoKlSg18gJKkHK8uoynfVzPD3DTH7IPJAShgt6GARZGHxzCvhiuQIO9BXj5oKvFOu3c6e5HYb3rVs5mww6GqhsozoLwijNgWEBk/ttSJwRHINs4+bJqUASfrSouzB9TUpUcjNETIG6xtDKg0FMjapJo+GxURIbHpQ9UD8ho= Received: by 10.54.33.39 with SMTP id g39mr1929371wrg; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.75 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:01:23 -0500 From: John Sconiers To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <42729FBF.8010800@cordula.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050426233321.084e9210@cobalt.antimatter.net> <51899.216.177.243.42.1114584317.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050427001118.0327cd50@cobalt.antimatter.net> <52515.216.177.243.42.1114586501.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <61359.216.177.243.35.1114722481.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <20050429105416.GA94049@wedge.madpilot.net> <42729FBF.8010800@cordula.ws> cc: /dev/null cc: Guido Falsi cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Sconiers List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:01:24 -0000 We should be able to have both in a unified installer / banner. The same way Mac OS X, Solaris, Linux, Novell, etc.....have both.....or am I missing something........ JOHN On 4/29/05, cpghost wrote: > John Sconiers wrote: >=20 > >Adding less then a meg here or there is not bloat. > > > It is a mistake to assume that memory is cheap and always easily > available and/or upgradable. There are quite a lot of embedded > systems out there, that run FreeBSD out-of-the-box, without the > need to tweak or manually remove all that unnecessary eye candy. > Such systems come with RAM soldered on-board, so they are > impossible to upgrade. >=20 > If you really want a GUIfied installer (and please remember that > some hardware like Soekris boxes don't even have VGA circuitery!), > then please only as a port (that would create a custom boot image), > or as an optional add-on. The default install should still be possible > over serial line and on striped down hardware. >=20 > The same holds true for boot banners: not every hardware out there > has hires graphics capabilities. >=20 > Regards, > -cpghost. >=20 > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ >=20 >