From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 8 13:43:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A10E37B41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g18LhNr63130; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:43:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <015201c1b0e9$a35045a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Richard Wenninger" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <1013160210.3c639912e49de@mail.broadpark.no> <20020208214613.5BC4114C8D@mail.westmoormfg.com> <012d01c1b0e4$4a20a510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020208221920.CA6F014C8D@mail.westmoormfg.com> Subject: Re: Breaking permissions on Windows 2000 (Server Edition) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:43:23 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard writes: > No, but I trust the source code. How can you trust the source code, but not the people who wrote it? > Trust, but verify. Verification is not a practical goal when millions of lines of code are involved. > Age old tactic. Not possible with windows. And not practical with FreeBSD. There could be a hundred Trojan horses in the code and you'd never know it, even though you have all the source code. > You can IF you can code. No, even if you can code, you cannot. Too much code, too little time, and typically no documentation. I've actually had to do this sort of thing, and unless you can afford to dedicate your life to verifying the code of an operating system, having the source provides you with no guarantees at all ... if anything, it just engenders a false sense of security. > Since you have no idea of the level of MY coding > skills, I resent being told I can't, assuming > I was given the code. It doesn't matter how good your coding skills are. It's a practical impossibility, in any case. > You paying? Not without a track record. > Yeah right. I'm glad we agree. > I'm in the same business. Which business is that? > I'm respected in this business. So is Microsoft. > I even support and code for Microsoft platforms. So do several million other people. > I don't even require companies to use ONLY me, > or purposely write code that makes it harder > for other programmers to work with. I don't know anyone who does. > Buyer beware. Buyer satisfied. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message