From owner-freebsd-bugs Sat Feb 28 00:36:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13988 for freebsd-bugs-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:36:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13982 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA03943; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:36:37 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199802280836.CAA03943@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: bin/5870 In-Reply-To: <19980228002156.26144@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> from John-Mark Gurney at "Feb 28, 98 00:21:56 am" To: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:36:36 -0600 (CST) Cc: toasty@dragondata.com, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can this be documented in the man page then? :) > > ahh.. but it is... from newfs(8): > -m free space % > The percentage of space reserved from normal users; the mini- > mum free space threshold. The default value used is defined > by MINFREE from , currently 8%. See tunefs(8) > for more details on how to set this option. > I meant the df man page. :) I understand the reserved root space. I didn't know that df was aware of it, or that it took it into it's calculations at all. > > In any case, it seems technically incorrect to have a filesystem being 108% > > used, agreed? :) > > so? what do you propose? have df report incorrect values and report > it only 100% used when it really is 108% used? I can't see how modifing > the current behavior will improve it... because if you modify it to > report it over the total usage, then the number only is useful for root > and not for the normal user (which uses it more)... I think it should divide the total blocks the fs has, by the number used, completely ignoring the reserved area. The average user doesn't need to know that there's a part of the disk they can't use. Either it's a public machine with quotas preventing things from getting that bad, or it's a private machine where the owner is root. :) If I am root, and it tells me i'm at 100% usage, I assume i'm full, and cannot write any more data. 100% full means 'no more' to me, not 'no more the average user can use'. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message