From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:27:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A7716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4707A43D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00ACQ8ELRR60@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 811992CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:54 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> To: Kevin Kinsey Message-id: <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > >I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > >to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > >AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > >stick by it seams unwise. > > > >-Mike > > For what values of "it"? FreeBSD is an operating system, > not a logo. Most people's decision to use the OS aren't > based on its mascot, I would hope. If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? FreeBSD started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my opinion. If someone comes up with a better looking "beastie" that is fine, to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few people are offended shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 diversity. If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because that number offends some people. While your at it please remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now the Arabic fonts need tossing tool, just to be fair. -Mike > > FBSD has close ties with the "Beastie" artwork, to be sure; but > saying that the "designers won't stick by it" when referring > to artwork (rather than a "work of art" --- that is, the system > itself) is a emotionally biased statement. Not that such is > inappropriate, but to contend that FreeBSD isn't worthy to use > because of > contention over "marketing" type issues also *seems* unwise.... > > KDK