From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 9 13:20:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3336F1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 13:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xnooby@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BE8FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 13:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2323540faa.13 for ; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:20:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bcj5IMTqc+3GpZ02Fk7B+i1ES34UCzBI3l+XkZi58Ug=; b=Ll9t5L/tAeZ82eicdW2skoK/K9r4I2F1BKZy7BrrtNx1Ol/JeTyY8E/YqovSNOIct2 g2d/HeTU2/HSR1NHLerHy7tqaOE0MRfbCrUUssX9hoU8tLKftWq/Io4AHHxZiZTep3yE 8SGWT5g2kVhf73Bp96uSNf3505t7LKa6gwRok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.0.130 with SMTP id 2mr1586557lae.0.1320844821630; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.6.227 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 05:20:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:20:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Xn Nooby To: Tom Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best $1000 Freebsd laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:20:23 -0000 Thanks, I will take a look at the Dell Latitudes. How much RAM does yours have, and how much did you allocate to ZFS? On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Tom Evans wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Xn Nooby wrote: >> I bought a laptop that has an unsupported video card, so now it is my >> "windows laptop". =A0I am thinking of getting another to be my "freebsd >> laptop", so I want to make sure it really works with FreebSD. =A0I could >> probably spend <$1000 (USD) on one. =A0I like the look of the Lenovos >> but I am unfamiliar with all the different models, and have never >> bought anything from their webstore. =A0I normally buy from Dell or >> Amazon, and I never buy used or refurbished (unless its a car!). >> >> My main requirements are having long battery life, opengl graphics, >> vtx suppoort (virtualization). =A0A decent drive (500+GB) and ram (6GB+) >> would be nice. =A0I can't believe ZFS needs 6GB+ ram, and I am not sure >> I would want to get a lot of ram, just so I could use ZFS. =A0On the >> other hand, I read that UFS is getting old. =A0I would rather use RAM >> for running virtual machines. >> >> I'm scared to death of getting another machine that has an unsupported >> video card (like nvidia optimus), or no VTX. =A0I want a long lasting >> machine that I can travel with, take to work, and not be limited by. >> My windows laptop is an i3 with VTX, and is a little under-powered, so >> I am thinking of an i5+. =A0I don't do a lot of number-crunching, but I >> don't want it to be slow, either. >> >> Any suggestions? > > I'm using a Dell Latitude E6410 with nvidia graphics option (NVS > 3100M) with 8.2-STABLE*. Everything worked out of the box, except for > suspend/resume, which I personally don't care about, and have never > even tried to get working. > > ZFS doesn't require 6GB of RAM, but it will use all available RAM > unless you tell it otherwise. You can limit the amount of ARC to a > sane amount depending upon your available RAM/workloads, and ZFS won't > grow much above that (ARC is not the only thing it uses memory on, but > it is the biggest). You would get decent performance limiting ZFS to ~ > 2GB of RAM. > > Cheers > > Tom > > * Please don't tell me "8.2 STABLE doesn't exist, it's 8-STABLE" - > it's not according to what "uname -r" says. >