From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 13:58:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA3816A4CE; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:58:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F35A43D49; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:58:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7KDwhiW053544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:58:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) id i7KDwjVO092122; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:58:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:58:44 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav Message-ID: <20040820135844.GA76070@ip.net.ua> References: <20040820101817.GE27931@ip.net.ua> <1092999187.9863.2.camel@builder02.qubesoft.com> <20040820105915.GA29178@ip.net.ua> <1093000460.9863.4.camel@builder02.qubesoft.com> <20040820120757.GC29568@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Doug Rabson cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Alpha is seriously broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:58:50 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 03:24:52PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov writes: > > I think there's no emergency plan other than to reinstall "base" > > on these systems from some older snapshot? >=20 > cross-compile on a different machine in the cluster, copy over the new > make(1), then use it to installworld over NFS. >=20 Only if this machine is also Alpha. To tell you the truth, some bits produced by cross-compiles on different architectures are not ready for use on a native architecture. This includes binary files such as fortune(6) .dat files, NLS catalogs, etc. I haven't identified them all yet. Once I get my "modern" Alpha box, I will start working on a project that will eventually address this, so cross- builds and releases will produce the same binary files as on native platforms. NetBSD achieved a great success in this direction, so it shouldn't be too hard to fix. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBJgOUqRfpzJluFF4RAg1nAKCFljFLwXAIxL8itfbgHmb5oQo1uACZAdlG y3QQxyrQZwZLG9WMlbJSWtk= =lK5B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd--