From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 2 5:20:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uucp.nl.uu.net (uucp.nl.uu.net [193.79.237.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E229C37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 05:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaknl by athos.nl.uu.net with UUCP id ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:20:16 +0200 Received: from jak.nl ([192.168.0.111]) by jak.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17687; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:30:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johannes@jak.nl) Message-ID: <39B0F070.E5E8A753@jak.nl> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:20:01 +0200 From: Johannes Zwart Organization: JAK++ Software Development B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why not XEmacs, after all? References: <14767.47786.569589.118725@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > Johannes Zwart writes: > > Like? > > You don't get the freebsd security warnings, do you? The last three > times I've upgraded netscape have been due to security bugs that > allowed malicious servers to access files on my disk. I am subscribed to the security warnings. However, I am not able to run any version of FreeBSD on my computer (sad story), because I need Windows 95 for my work & school. Which leaves me no space for alternatives. So any warnings that would have impact on me if I had the FreeBSD versions of the programs I run, tend to get put in the grey corners of my memory. By the way, I recall only two warnings on Netscape lately. > There are also regular discussions about which of the many versions of > netscape in the ports tree crash the least often. I personally don't > run into that, but I don't run Netscape as my main browser (see > below). Under Win95 and NT, Netscape has always ran fine as far as I've experienced, and never crashed. > The most annoying bug that I know still exists is that it doesn't > implement the "ignore author colors" setting properly, so if you use > it you risk getting the author text color on your background color - > which could well be unreadable (as opposed to getting the authors text > color on the authors background color - which could well be > unreadable). > > I haven't been building general purpose web apps recently, so I'm out > of touch with what the current bug set is. Historically it's ranged > from improper HTML parsing to not handling redirects as per spec. I'd > be surprised if the current version were any better. Hearsay from > inside Netscape indicates that Mozilla will be *much* better about > that. If true, I'd blame it on them having lost the "embrace and > extend" war to MicroSoft. Well, I'm anxious. I'll check out the Mozilla home page. > > > XEmacs seems to be a much better web > > > browser than Netscape. Actually, combining all these > > > different functions, it seems to be the ultimate > > > editor. > > I don't agree. It's slow, and I hate having my editor tied up fetching > and displaying web pages. I use w3m as a primary browser. I configure > it as the first external browser (so I can "open link in new window"), > netscape as the second external browser (so poorly written or highly > graphical pages can be displayed with a few keystrokes), and a script > that adds the link to my cross-platform multi-browser hotlist as the > third external browser. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message