Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 07:49:44 +0200 From: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> To: Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM) Message-ID: <20240904074944.585d0016d115c80b840c15c2@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <CAOtMX2jwu9bUDgM=jxtP5t794VUPjNx3GtrVgYqvGcSiZqHwVQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <CANCZdfrhK1iTZL5uxciqK_FGb%2Bzha_NZ15LsY42f%2B_z3KbPmJw@mail.gmail.com> <CAOtMX2go95=RFjegzchgMTYNdZfatzGDVcavp8O6=bK9yks1bQ@mail.gmail.com> <202409031950.483JoBuh009465@critter.freebsd.dk> <CAOtMX2jwu9bUDgM=jxtP5t794VUPjNx3GtrVgYqvGcSiZqHwVQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Alan, On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 14:19:02 -0600 Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 1:50?PM Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wro= te: > > > > -------- > > Alan Somers writes: > > > > > For example, libifconfig and the /dev/cam/ctl ioctls are both unstabl= e. > > > A port that uses one of those and is built for FreeBSD 14.0 won't > > > necessarily work for 14.1. > > > > Isn't that also a problem today ? > > > > What difference does it make that src is distributed as a package ? >=20 > Not "a package" but "many packages". The pkgbase concept builds a > separate package for almost every dir under lib, bin, sbin, usr.bin, > and usr.sbin. Not really true, pkgbase creates a packages for each tools or set of tools (when it make sense). > So the problem will be that libifconfig and its > consumers will be distributed separately, whereas they are currently > distributed together. > -Alan >=20 libifconfig is an internal lib so I'm not sure this is the best example here (and it's internal lib because it's not stable and I don't think that you can use it in a port right now unless the port uses /usr/obj/ from the host or can build the lib from /usr/src, both solution will create problems). But anyway, this isn't a problem to update multiple packages at the same time, yes there will probably be a time during the update where the lib is updated and the binary isn't yet (or the other way around) but that's the same with any ports that depends on a lib present in another ports. Also for sources there is only two packages, FreeBSD-src-sys (for the kernel) and FreeBSD-src (for anything else). I'm not sure that I understand the problem you're trying to describe. Cheers, --=20 Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>
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