From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 14 22:48:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15145 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (root@bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15138 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:48:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from const. (tulip2.verinet.com [199.45.181.194]) by bamboo.verinet.com (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA23227; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:47:51 -0600 Received: (from allenc@localhost) by const. (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02968; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:48:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:48:13 -0600 (MDT) From: allen campbell Message-Id: <199805150548.XAA02968@const.> To: grog@lemis.com Subject: Re: The dumbing-down of programming Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980515114608.H305@freebie.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This was pointed out to me by a fellow student: > > > > ".. Most of the programming team consisted of programmers who had > > great facility with Windows, Microsoft Visual C++ and the Foundation > > Classes. In no time at all, it seemed, they had generated many > > screenfuls of windows and toolbars and dialogs, all with connections > > to networks and data sources, thousands and thousands of lines of > > code. But when the inevitable difficulties of debugging came, they > > seemed at sea. In the face of the usual weird and unexplainable > > outcomes, they stood a bit agog. It was lef to the UNIX-trained > > programmers to fix things. The UNIX team members were accustomed to > > having to know. .." > > > > http://www.salon1999.com/21st/feature/ > > Are you sure you have the correct URL? I can't find anything like > that there. > It's there. Keep to the side bar on the left, scroll down; 'The Dumbing Down of Programming.' Worth a read. -- Allen Campbell allenc@verinet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message