From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 21 03:32:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC8216A4E5 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=/6uWiU=BG=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA6A43D4C for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:32:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SRS0=/6uWiU=BG=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from scan04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.234] helo=scan04.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1G3lki-0007Wf-Gf for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:32:36 -0400 Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9] ident=exim) by scan04.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1G3lki-0000VL-C2 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:32:36 -0400 Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9] helo=authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1G3lkh-0000VE-Qx for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:32:35 -0400 Received: from 24-119-225-24.cpe.cableone.net ([24.119.225.24] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1G3lkh-0003YO-87; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:32:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:34:18 +0000 From: Vulpes Velox To: Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=F8rgaard?= Message-ID: <20060720223418.0999ce59@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <44B40601.5050708@locolomo.org> References: <44AD2569.9070007@rsu.ru> <44AD4D27.3060109@FreeBSD.org> <20060707015458.GC500@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20060710224854.GC47557@dragon.NUXI.org> <20060711020031.GB3507@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <44B3E520.5030700@FreeBSD.org> <44B40601.5050708@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: Vulpes Velox Cc: Doug Barton , Michael, Bushkov , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap importing X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:32:38 -0000 On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:11:45 +0200 Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Sorry, please accept my apologies and move on :-) I usually just > follow this list, but since Doug brought down this path... >=20 > Doug Barton wrote: >=20 > > IMO, this argument isn't persuasive. My personal feeling is that > > before something new gets added to the base system it needs to > > have a pretty large userbase, perhaps even a majority of our > > users. We have a very good ports system that exists to provide > > easy access to "optional" software that isn't needed by a > > majority of our users. I haven't seen any reasons why ldap > > support doesn't fall into that category. >=20 > I don't know, but separating things out could both fragment the > project and make things progress faster. >=20 > So, my thought was: How about a "base-ports"? A "base-port" should > be a software package entirely maintained by the FreeBSD team but > kept outside the base system, and must be under a BSD compatible > licence? >=20 > My list would be, basically what can be disabled in make.conf, and > some new ones: GAMES, LPR, NIS, SENDMAIL, BIND, DCHP (server), LDAP >=20 > Please don't flame me - I know that such a list would be eternally > disputed... Now there is a idea I would love to see. I don't really see a need for it to be maintained outside of the base system, but seeing the base system moved to something like that would be nice. Being able to uninstall a part of the base system would be nice as well. I personally would ride myself of sendmail.