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Date:      Fri, 30 Aug 2019 09:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, araujo@freebsd.org, fcp@freebsd.org, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, Kristof Provost <kp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FCP 20190401-ci_policy: CI policy
Message-ID:  <201908301619.x7UGJnUt095328@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <20190830015805.GA16894@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>

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> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 06:35:41PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > 
> > What about weekends? I notice commits tend to slow down during weekends. I 
> > suspect people who work on FreeBSD at $COMPANY for a living treat it as a 
> > job, which it is. However this should be considered.
> > 
> 
> A committer, who works for a $COMPANY and has no intention of
> looking at the mailing lists or CI reports until Monday, should
> not commit on Firday.  What ever happen to common sense?

Perhaps this speaks to another issue then, I know the community
is a whole against rules, procedures, requirements, etc all, but
I'll again stick my head across the block and say:

Should it be added to the committers guide that a committer is
expected to be "responsive" to commit especially, and project
in general emails for 48 hours following any commit?  Would
that not solve some of this?

I do know from first hand interactions that several project members
foo@freebsd.org email is basically /dev/nulled into a mail box that
gets cleaned out on some random schedule.

That technically goes against the requirement that if your a
committer your suppose to be reading commit mail but I can
agree that the volume of commit mail has become an overwhelming
problem.  One I do wish we had a better answer to than just
ignore it.

Regards,
-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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