From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 15:09:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45E01065684 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9217E8FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W8 ([65.55.131.43]) by bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:57:21 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [144.51.73.129] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:57:20 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0806260732w588ed266ve519449f132f90b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <1214322926.1505.65.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <7d6fde3d0806241040x6ed9dea6y79d2c2d62ff1b30f@mail.gmail.com> <200806250006.06789.thierry@herbelot.com> <47d0403c0806251000q66162234nac5c0b1f7bf9b64c@mail.gmail.com> <20080625151706.1de6e32d@mbook.local> <7d6fde3d0806260732w588ed266ve519449f132f90b6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2008 14:57:21.0002 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF516CA0:01C8D79C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:20 -0000 > fglrx is the only way that anyone's going to get true 3D OpenGL> support,= and the last time I checked that wasn't available except for> ancient card= s on FreeBSD.> > AMD was supposed to be helping ATI, but it appears that af= ter the> merger all that's happened is a website change and ATI's drivers h= ave> gotten worse... last time I tried x64 support with Linux I was sadly> = shocked by the poor programming that went into the driver and the> difficul= ty I had trying to get it to work with X11.> > Then again things may have c= hanged since that time too...> > My 2 cents,> -Garrett =20 AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the ATI cards st= arting with the most recent. From a news article iI came across they were a= ctually hiring a whole new department whose sole purpose was to add more of= the older cards to the open sorce drivers as well as eventually having 3d = acceleration. As for the NEW 4000 series, the card will come with full driv= ers for windows and Linux on the install CD. granted there is still some co= ding to get BSD drivers, but AMD is making life better for *nix user with A= TI cards. =