From nobody Fri Dec 10 22:39:37 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AA218E243A; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com (mail-wm1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::331]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J9m7g3CWmz3Gs8; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id 77-20020a1c0450000000b0033123de3425so10126621wme.0; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:40:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4EILn3eJFqusQL6CnbT2GOklNsW1NwwTKUSrNYVyxqo=; b=HyiKSLiHMPqS5/jmc0LLi72wYXMDN27paek9grVO0auNpjQdjY+x/Wa7uH3AsR67Fc DSnIuKLCkUpiEWB0tvpDUNZZjOOQRj+tIYTIBiKCS2IqJAMlhNEypVyIbtOoIlmj6hnx mjqoES7FD1m224gccnjhRXYtOXnRnRAThSGRNIXKQQkhr51zqEa6dLz40CAgDMnHkejq IGud3ccE00fKaebqo/MFUdPWO0/hiU6/9hWNCSwn8JR1EUOeW6G5kkKrzBgXoXjSAKbi ohtj2i1HtnrC7UsZDUfqrjDtNo0FLhXtGmOsG+XaanFVcZkTQzujWblR7dI4m/DY2uSW lCSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4EILn3eJFqusQL6CnbT2GOklNsW1NwwTKUSrNYVyxqo=; b=L09DvGNt3B5DikLuGfev8JAF5bQWgU3Mv5C/PU2+3HVzcFpeV4pPBa+sqkM+Rb5n1m 5wSuNb5TgswIF7WtHJ29T0rlqZFSOPkUhiwTz7NTFLpBs2SXir6W8SD8gt9f8xk3lAdb 7nQVj62pbPsP3BMC/gt4r6f+2ENSpufYVqYPazWzvpVIOp0wAQDiYcsEGkTpddE0qicG Vdpp4ONYgVNW3ZuNaXE9kypy8OmG2fM6W7lAhAXj6YuRTru8yYmQ+kKUew4LEWKRPxF2 ER+kuCIySNDVWEGfdRXpOofzGbKez4BdcDSNcqk4n5Cxhp9GiQYu9iURfL8sRoqYcMgq ykpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530aXgEMsqvUZYnZWi18V4CT9rZBn48RpKU0uaOWolQ1edv6VIJ1 HKxB/z+5qW66KfgeILWX6gsLecIk3Sg0HC91Hb6t1YD/Vnk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxNDpt13xhxHCtxAaMl3nCtMaFjxkh/oM/3fMvsal9N52sTel8aZ5EzIUecSKBANHx6xenPNgCZVWcCGX9BcRk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4f55:: with SMTP id m21mr20602202wmq.68.1639176013983; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:40:13 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 01:39:37 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: configng To: Kyle Evans Cc: FreeBSD Arch , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000009b29505d2d2685d" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J9m7g3CWmz3Gs8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --00000000000009b29505d2d2685d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 12:41 AM Kyle Evans wrote: > Hi, > > FYI- we're forming a group to look at what the next generation of config(8) > should look like, with the goal of addressing some long-standing issues > with the existing kernel configuration system. > > If you're interested in participating in the ongoing design discussion, > please shoot an e-mail to kevans@FreeBSD.org or imp@FreeBSD.org. The > current high-level requirement outline can be found here: > https://hackmd.io/w1Tf8mmVQVuZok7-LNEhgw > > The current expectation is that configng will use an entirely different > configuration language, rather than extending what we currently have, and > come with some tooling to aide migration. This will be discussed more > in-depth in later stages; for now, we want to focus on what we want to get > out of the next generation. > > Thanks, > > Kyle Evans > My suggestion may be to use an "expert system" with its "rule" structure . Over time , by adding rules only , you may improve its ability to make decisions for a proper configuration . In that way you will be able to use an expert system to manage your rule base . You may study as a beginning point the CLIPS among many other systems : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLIPS CLIPS You may design all of expert system as a single XML file or other included XML file names as elements of main XML file ( let's say ) entries . You may need to cooperate with a person being "expert" on "expert systems" . With my best wishes for all , Mehmet Erol Sanliturk --00000000000009b29505d2d2685d--