From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 15:45:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE7110657F4 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AA78FC12 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5MFicYR026731; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:44:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E65851281; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:44:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0735E5127A; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:44:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:44:37 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F06A@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0906220839y1f9431aeg2646578b2a87a248@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: backdoor threat Thread-Index: AcnzT7ubqijNs9rRQOOijWL7TTbHXQAAHhCA References: <20090619111234.6883afd2@gom> <20090619143935.6c28be98.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20090619183535.006433d1@gom> <20090622085952.9ef38eab.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F062@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090622113610.422cab85.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <6ae50c2d0906220839y1f9431aeg2646578b2a87a248@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "alexus" , "Bill Moran" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2009 15:44:37.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[593E5400:01C9F350] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, prad Subject: RE: backdoor threat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:45:40 -0000 I guess you guys didn't get my humor in the "backdoor" threat? Geez, if fu= nny jokes aren't funny when no one gets them, and this reference was margin= al at best! -----Original Message----- From: alexus [mailto:alexus@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:39 AM To: Bill Moran Cc: Gary Gatten; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; prad Subject: Re: backdoor threat On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Bill Moran wrot= e: > In response to "Gary Gatten" : > >> OK - this thread is scaring me. =A0Anything that involves a "backdoor" >> threat is very concerning - I keep looking over my shoulder to make sure >> no one is sneaking up on me! > > My job here is done ... > > In my experience, most people don't take the steps necessary to really > secure their systems. =A0But it's all a tradeoff. =A0If I'm running an on= line > banking site, then I'm going to go all out to ensure that all the required > steps are made to secure the system, otherwise I'm not going to stay in > business very long. > > But if I'm selling ringtones over the internet, or running a site for fla= sh > games that makes money off banner ads, how diligent should I be? =A0I mea= n, > if someone breaks in, how much do I lose? =A0I'm not storing anyone's cre= dit > card numbers, so I just have to deal with a couple days of downtime while > I fix the server. =A0And chances are nobody is going to break into my sys= tem > anyway, since I don't have anything worth stealing. > > Of course, the flaw in that reasoning is that while you may not care, the > rest of the internet is getting bombed by the botnet that you've joined > by your carelessness. > > The counter-argument to that is that you can't afford what it would cost > to _really_ secure a system like that. =A0And it's not justified if the > information isn't sensitive anyway. > > So, yes. =A0Keep looking over your shoulder. =A0_Someone_ is sneaking up = on > you. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > I would also try to patch your FreeBSD, bringing it up-to-date --=20 http://alexus.org/
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