From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 22:57:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD14A2C5B0 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4EE11DC for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9944AA2C5AF; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E89A2C5AE for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CE5411D9; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tABMvImn010585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id tABMvHtq010584; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:57:17 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Mark Linimon Cc: Craig Butler , Anna Wilcox , Marius Strobl , Sean Bruno , Warner Losh , sparc64@freebsd.org, Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 Message-ID: <20151111225716.GV65715@funkthat.com> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <39947478-4710-47D8-BAB1-FC93979570B6@mail.turbofuzz.com> <4004425.K7Etsx0SLe@ralph.baldwin.cx> <1411902059.696.1447273047281.JavaMail.craig@w520> <20151111202257.GB6857@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151111202257.GB6857@lonesome.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:57:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:57:22 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote this message on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 14:22 -0600: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:17:32PM +0000, Craig Butler wrote: > > Just to raise something else as well, port maintainers seem hesitant > > to push sparc64 fixes in. > > They don't have an effective way to test them. All they can test for > is the no-regression case on the hardware they have access to. I haven't seen many calls for test on the -sparc64 mailing list... For arches like sparc64, the only way to get patches is test on what hardware you have, and then commit, and hope it doesn't regress for others... Maybe we should have a sparc64 reviewers group created so that people that want to test patches can join, and provide test results.. There are already groups for arm, mips and powerpc.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."