Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 04:10:02 -0500 From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@unety.net> To: "'Jordan K. Hubbard'" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: "'Darren Reed'" <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, "FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.org" <FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org>, "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>, "'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, "wollman@freebsd.org" <wollman@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: IPv8 Tutorial #1: Minimal IPv8 hack Message-ID: <01BB3A38.BC5B4BE0@webster.unety.net>
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On Sunday, May 05, 1996 3:46 AM, Jordan K. Hubbard[SMTP:jkh@time.cdrom.com] wrote: @ > Does the word "Free" in FreeBSD mostly stand for Free as in Money @ > or freedom as in freedom of choice...??? @ @ Free as in freely available, if you were seriously looking for an @ answer to that question. @ Thanks...either way... @ However, the rules of quality control stipulate that you also don't @ take just any damn thing you're offered or pretty soon you start @ looking more like AIX than you do like BSD. That would be terrible, @ and it certainly won't happen so long as the current core team is in @ charge. @ Hold on...I am not suggesting that IPv8 go into FreeBSD... @ Finally, there is also a high degree of compartmentalization in the @ FreeBSD project and, last I checked, it was not even the members of @ this group you have to convince about IPv8 going in as a default part @ of the system. Garrett Wollman is in charge of networking, we've @ grown to respect his judgement enough over the years to delegate final @ authority over that area to him and, if he suddently decides that IPv8 @ is god's gift to FreeBSD, you're probably a shoo-in with very little @ debate. If, on the other hand, he thinks otherwise then you've a @ snowball's chance in hell of getting this into FreeBSD and there's not @ even any point in taking your case here. @ So, like most large companies, educational institutions, etc. there is an "organization". That seems natural. This is good, that allows your group to control the quality of their software "production". Keep up the good work. @ Now, would that mean we're all hateful people who are determined to @ keep IPv8 out of FreeBSD? Of course not, we'd simply suggest (as @ Warner did) that you distribute it independantly, as *many other* @ people have done with their private enhancements to FreeBSD. I'll @ even give you space on the various archive sites to store the diffs. @ @ Jordan @ Again...I do not expect IPv8 to go into FreeBSD...some people with FreeBSD systems and the ability to modify their kernels wanted to see a quick hack to be able to receive ( not send) IPv8 packets. I thought that was what freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org was about. I am sorry that I mentioned the simple "hack" here. Maybe I should have used freebsd-security@freebsd.org or freebsd-isp@freebsd.org because people could use the hack to detect if IPv8 packets are present on their LANs. They could also use the IPv8 format to help add additional security to their systems. Again, I do not expect IPv8 to go into FreeBSD. I assumed that FreeBSD users are at a level where they do not depend only on one feed. I can not imagine that FreeBSD users will restrict themselves to one source. If they are going to do that...they might as well us that N-Thing...:-) -- Jim Fleming UNETY Systems, Inc. Naperville, IL e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net
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