From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 3 18:19:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73E2F37B6FF for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 3690 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2000 02:18:19 -0000 Received: from userbh54.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.143.19) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 02:18:19 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00573; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 02:18:34 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 02:18:34 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Paul Griffith Cc: Brian Beattie , chat@freebsd.org, "Koster, K.J." Subject: Re: Great Worldwide Gas Out Message-ID: <20000304021834.A340@marder-1> References: <38BFEEA8.1A465CFC@softweyr.com> <20000303183214.A327@marder-1> <38C0274A.D8E54239@interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38C0274A.D8E54239@interlog.com>; from paulg@interlog.com on Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 03:57:46PM -0500 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 03:57:46PM -0500, Paul Griffith wrote: > You mean after the Gulf War, we still have to deal with this sh*t. Hell > might as well let Iraq start pumping oil again. > Huh? > > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 10:13:20AM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > > > "Koster, K.J." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Oh, those Americans. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Let's see: $1 per gallon in the US. $1.2 per litre in the Netherlands, times > > > > > 4.5 (or thereabouts) is $5.4 per gallon in the Netherlands. > > > > > > > > > It's 4.54 litres per *imperial* gallon, a US gallon is smaller (20% > > smaller) coz their pints are smaller (16 fluid oz. against 20). So, > > that's 3.63 litres per US gallon, or US$4.36 per gallon in the Netherlands. > > > > > > > Everyone in the Netherlands drives cars; everyone thinks gas is expensive. > > > > > This means that the gas prices in the US can go up 440% and people will > > > > > still drive cars and buy gas (and complain about gas prices, of course). > > > > > > > > First, this off-topic for -hackers, so I've directed replies to -chat > > > > if you want to continue. > > > > > > > > Second, I know people that commute distances that would cross your > > > > country. I suspect the average American uses a lot more gas than the > > > > average Nederlander. > > > > > > > > Third, our gas prices here are held down by all sorts of weird > > > > government intervention, bizarre market shenanigans, and a public that > > > > doesn't understand that the price of gasoline has risen only 4x in the > > > > same period that the price of cars has risen 10x. That's certainly > > > > NOT a "natural occurence". > > > > > > > > Fourth, I'm paying $1.48/gal right now, and I want the price to go > > > > DOWN, not UP. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, the idea that the last "Great Gas-out" and any effect on prices, > > > is, ... amusing ... at best. "Those Americans" may be right for different > > > reasons. > > > > > > > -- > > > > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > > > > > > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > > > > wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > Brian Beattie | The only problem with > > > beattie@aracnet.com | winning the rat race ... > > > www.aracnet.com/~beattie | in the end you're still a rat > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? > > Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? > > BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? > > -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 > > ________________________________________________________________ > > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > > My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ > > mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > -- > Paul Griffith paulg@interlog.com | > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message