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From: Max Laier <max@love2party.net>
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On Friday 09 November 2007, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote:
> Max Laier <max@love2party.net> writes:
> > No, I don't see why these two should behave differently, but you
> > should add a "scrub in on sk0" in any case.
>
> scrub is known and documented to interfere with NFS.

Only with broken NFS clients and even then a combination of "no-df"=20
and "random-id" parameters can be used to make them work, too.  Without=20
reassembly stateful filtering is impossible (though this still doesn't=20
explain why an explicit "udp keep state"-rule would work).

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