From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 13 21:19:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from evilpete.dyndns.org (12-232-26-46.client.attbi.com [12.232.26.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDED37B401 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 21:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.wemm.org ([10.0.0.3]) by evilpete.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4E4JJJ04990 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 21:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF28E380F; Mon, 13 May 2002 21:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: David Greenman-Lawrence , Matthew Dillon , jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems In-Reply-To: <3CE01A3A.AAB85F64@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:19:18 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020514041918.DF28E380F@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > Has anyone tapped the manufacturer on the shoulder hard enough to > get an answer? "Why are you not using Linux or another supported OS?" No, they so far have steadfastly refused to supply information about bugs and errata in such a way that we could use them in an open source driver. ie: you cannot get anything without an NDA that basically forfeits the souls of your next 5 generations of offspring if you even mention there might be bug in the hardware to your next door neighbor with a quiet whisper. OK, that's overdoing it :-), but you get the idea of the problem. Their NDA process just doesn't cater for open source development. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message