From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 14 09:28:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18135 for current-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18130 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17877 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:25:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 May 1997 17:29:57 +0100 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (tees.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.60]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16456; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:29:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00815; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:29:42 +0100 (BST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 References: <16305.863622432@time.cdrom.com> From: Paul Richards Date: 14 May 1997 17:29:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Wed, 14 May 1997 08:07:12 -0700 Message-ID: <57pvuuvwy2.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/Emacs 19.30 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > Seriously, this is not about me adding gratuitous features just for > the fun of calling down the email equivalent of lightning on my head - > I don't need that any more than the next guy - I'm simply trying to > implement what I feel is the far greater and more important strategy > of getting commercial software vendors to play ball with us, and by > doing so I've both accomodated CDE and sent the strong message to > other ISVs that we're willing to make concensions when necessary. Am > I truly the only one to see the importance of this? ;-) I'm all in favour of commercial co-operation. The fine line to draw is the point when the commercial forces start dictating what FreeBSD looks like and making a change that we don't feel is technically correct to accomodate a commercial product is something that needs to be thought about carefully. One of the key strengths of FreeBSD is that we strive to do things the right way rather than the expedient way. I agree about making concessions but they need to be thought through carefully and the end-benefits to the project considered fully. FreeBSD is very strong in the ISP server market and secure mail handling is far more important there than running CDE. If people wish to install CDE then they can make the necessary changes to the system *at that time.* -- Dr Paul Richards. [p.richards@elsevier.co.uk] Originative Solutions Ltd. [paul@originat.demon.co.uk] Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 (Elsevier)