From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 20 12:22:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3431E106568B for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com) Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C78FC1D for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0KCMofd029250; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:22:50 +0100 Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.40.130]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0KCMnvm024946; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:22:50 +0100 Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) id o0KCMnSE088945; Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:22:49 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20100120122249.GA10964@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <20100120063443.GA1303@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <201001201203.o0KC3r5E036646@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201001201203.o0KC3r5E036646@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Echelon: X-Advice: Drop that crappy M$-Outlook, I'm tired of your viruses! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" , "Albsmeier, Andre" Subject: Re: No deltas via email anymore? X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:22:52 -0000 On Wed, 20-Jan-2010 at 13:03:52 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > > From: Andre Albsmeier > > > > The problem seems to lie on my side ;-( From what I found out so > > far, those buggers who administer the mail servers here (if you > > can call the M$-crap a server at all) switched their Exchange- > > toys to a newer version which not only messes up the headers > > but also wraps lines at pos 75. Now the deltas arrive like this: > > > > CTM_MAIL BEGIN src-7.0895.gz 1 1 > > H4sIAGI5VksCA8VZ+28bNxL+2foreG5R2HnIfD8ctEASO70AqVs0PlyvdweBT3sRaVe3u0riHvq > > / > > 35ArPyT5IbcBzoZJaUkOZz4OZ75Zvz79YfLq+Pu3J4iOMepa/1whbQSimGBMiKFUGC5/RePR69M > > f > > 3rxHY9/PJl1v+0WHYAYfGsk50h4bE3RyRmEeXJSBGSqtY1GHEKlCSQdtVBJEU8yoEEQIzw1LQhj > > L > > > > Normally, they get automatically piped to ctm_rmail which can't > > work with this and throws them away. Now that I've switch off > > ctm_rmail, I can find the whole mess in my inbox... > > > > Sorry for the noise, I really didn't realise what's going > > here originally... > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Andre > > 75 seems low, considering MS addicts write extremely long > lines at times (I suppose that's why - sigh). > > uuencode 61 > fmt 65 > MIME base64 72 > punch cards 72 > MSexchange 75 > ctm_rmail 76 As I found out now, they do not simply wrap it but convert the whole message into quoted-printable. That also adds the '=' character at the end of the line. Needless to say that they alter a signed message :-(. And they strip off the Sender: header as well... > > I guess there would be no objection if you wrote patches for: > - ctm_rmail to also support receipt of smaller lines. > - ctm_smail to optionally generate shorter lines. That would be an option. Let's see if time permits. However, I adhere to strongly to the opinion, that MTAs have no reason to touch message bodies that way. > Then existing ctm recipients could first install a new ctm_rmail > Then later senders could upgrade to a new ctm_smail. > That would save others in future too. > > But good luck if you first try the quicker & more satisfying > route of giving those Microsoft addicts a good berating ;-) I was able to find a person who at least knew what I am talking about. He even stated that he was working in the Unix world before and promised to forward the problem to the responsible staff. We'll see... -Andre > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Mail plain text not quoted-printable, HTML or Base64 http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Amateurs like Linux, but professionals prefer FreeBSD.